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Old 05-03-2007, 04:29 PM
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What it is is over priced garbage made to fool you into thinking you are getting some kind of steroid. Probably rip your liver up.
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Are you refering to the tren-xtreme?
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What it is is over priced garbage made to fool you into thinking you are getting some kind of steroid. Probably rip your liver up.

You talking about the tren or the havoc?
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:24 AM
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Both.
If you are going to do this shit and "supposely" have to do a PCT.
Why not just do the real thing? Its probably safer and a lot cheaper ;)
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^^ the keep word in that post is "probably" ...

if you do the math its not cheaper, and its actually legal. However, you wont see anywhere near the gains you would on the "real" stuff. As always, its personal prefrence.
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Both.
If you are going to do this shit and "supposely" have to do a PCT.
Why not just do the real thing? Its probably safer and a lot cheaper ;)
I know what you mean. I have this thing about needles. Plus I can pass the pills off as just supps when my wife asks.
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what about any clomid/nolva DURING the cycle?
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:05 PM
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I fail to recognize the correct usage for this Havoc...

What I do understand (or think I understand) would go something like this.

(weeks 1-3) Pre-load –Hawthorn, Milk Thistle, Fuze (scivation)
(weeks 3-6) Havoc along with continued Hawthorn & Milk Thistle

Am I way off here?? - And what is a recommended PCT?
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I fail to recognize the correct usage for this Havoc...

What I do understand (or think I understand) would go something like this.

(weeks 1-3) Pre-load –Hawthorn, Milk Thistle, Fuze (scivation)
(weeks 3-6) Havoc along with continued Hawthorn & Milk Thistle

Am I way off here?? - And what is a recommended PCT?


Way off, the milk thistle, saw palmetto, hawthorn berry don't need to be preloaded, but it may be a good idea if you are prone to the possible side effects. 1 week should do it for preloading. Continue taking them throughout the cycle and PCT. The Havoc will be a 4 week run. For PCT, clomid or nolva is a minimum recomendation. Some others run tribulus and 6oxo to name a few.
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Sounds good, thanks man.

Let me construct a cycle then re-post it - Will you let me know what you think Scorcher?

much appreciated
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