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Old 03-08-2007, 09:49 AM
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hi;
Is it true that you don't need pct of you're doing winny?
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:28 AM
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:34 AM
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so if I should do a six week cycle with 40 mg ed
and two or three times cardio I could gains some quality muscle?
Training,food and rest are incheck
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:43 PM
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LOL. "No" as in "no you don't need PCT"? Or "No" as in "no, that's not true"?
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hahah good point FireProof, No as in no its not true.

to the OP. dont cycle winny alone, its pointless.
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Isn't winny the drug that performance athletes (sprinters and the like) use because it's lean/dry gains so they can get some boosts without a lot of weight gain, which woudl be detrimental in their sport?

I'm not a steroid expert.
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I've heard that before, it also lubricates the joints from what I understand.

I just assumed that we were talking about gaining mass, I guess you could cycle it alone if you were running on it, but I really have no idea, never looked into it.
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I've heard that before, it also lubricates the joints from what I understand.

I just assumed that we were talking about gaining mass, I guess you could cycle it alone if you were running on it, but I really have no idea, never looked into it.
Yeah - I wasn't disagreeing with your point. I have found that the general concensus is that it's not run alone. Just threw the athletics point out there for discussion. ;)
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Strong gains are never really made while using Winny, but small, decent and fairly easy to maintain gains are possible.

Winny is also quite effective at promoting strength because it binds very well at the androgen receptor.

The main reason why performance athletes (sprinters and the like) use Winny is because of its red blood cell count-stimulating properties.

There is no need for an anti-estrogen as Winny may have such a property of its own and does not aromatize at any rate.

And YES, it is true.
There is no real use for Clomid or Nolva post-cycle for Winny specifically since there is no post-cycle aromatisation to cause negative feedback. That makes whatever gains you made on Winny quite easy to maintain.
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thnx for your advice.
@hardgainer : why is a winny only cycle useless,some guys I know gained like 5 kg during this cycle and became way more harder.
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