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We ARE trying to help you dude. But by simply saying "write me a program," that's not exactly gonna work all that well on a forum. People have been asking you questions in order to be able to steer you in a better direction. But you seem to just want us to do all the work for you without knowing anything about you.

Ya i know lol. Im really serious about this and i always do research on this kinda stuff. I know i gotta cut cals n all that but i dont know how many im consuming, i dont eat everthing outta a box lol, i dont know how many cals r in rice and chicken n all that. So its so hard, and i read that u cant like make muscle and loose weight and all that at the same time, so now im wondering how i can loose weight but still get lean at the same time and all that, and what sorta things i should eat and what time, theres so many factors u gotta get together before this, so i guess a personal trainer would be best, i wanna do this the right way, because i know people who have been doing this for like 6 months and havnt been seeing really good results, so i wanna make this worth while, so ya, thansk though!!!

Simply put:

Since you are very new to weightlifting, simply hitting the weights with one of a bazillion full body workouts would be your best bet. Read all the journals on the forums here to decide which one you would like to follow. Just start lifting what you can following one of those programs.

For diet, read the stickies to be able to calculate how much protein/carbs/fat you should have and read the sticky "what a bodybuilder eats" to get an idea of sources for protein/carbs/fat.

Just getting active is a giant leap, but keep reading on nutrition as you go along.
Being very new to weightlifting, most any program will give you decent results.
You'll get 1000 times better results just lifting weights for your whole body and trying your best to eat clean, than to keep asking about what to do and sit around pondering.

Bottom line: Get out, get active, keep reading all the info you can and incorporate new things you learn along the way rather than trying to research research research for a long time before doing anything.

Just to add: A saying I just thought of would sum up what I'm trying to get across: "A moving wheel is easier to steer in a forward direction than a non-moving wheel" -me

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