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Old 10-24-2007, 05:38 AM
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Hey what's up?

I'm a 17 year old student from Holland (excuse my poor vocabulary) i have been reading a lot of random websites and forums for information about bodybuilding for the past 2 years, until i came across this one.. i think this is one of the better ones, if not the best forum I've come across and decided to register.

My info:

Age: 17
Weight: 60kg
Length: 1.70cm

My story:

I've been working out light and basically just to stay fit since I was 15 years old. (Never really was consistent with it, i usually went 2-3 days a week, but sometimes i would just skip 3 weeks for no reason. As i said it wasn't serious.

Now, since about 6 months ago I started lifting heavy weights and my muscles have become a little bigger, and look a bit "tighter".

I trained like this:
3 sets: (1) 12reps aprox. 40% of max weight
(2) 10 reps aprox. 50% of max weight
(3) 8 reps aprox 70% of max weight
and sometimes a 4th set:
(4) 6 (or more) reps aprox 90% of max weight


My problem:

Notice I said "a little bigger" in the last sentence. I weigh 60kg (used to weigh 58, gained 2 kg), and my goal of weighing 75kg is starting to seem impossible. Now I must have done something wrong in my training (training inconsistent) or in my nutrition (just randomly trying to eat a lot of whatever without planning), but it doesn't matter how it's done wrong, I hope one of the more experienced members can tell me how to do it right.

Facts:
1. I'm a very hard gainer with a fast metabolism.
2. I'm a broke student (can't afford 2 pounds of chickenbreast and steak on daily bases)

Questions:

1. What training method is the most effective for me? (method that is most likely to put as much mass possible on a hardgainer)

2. What nutritional tips do you have for a (short on $) student? (I can make a diet, no problem, just need affordable ingredients or other tips?)

3. What affordable quality supplements can help put on mass for a hardgainer? The list of supplements i tried so far:
  • Weightgainer (MAMMOTH - ony w.g. i tried, didn't work for me)
  • Whey Protein (EAS 100% Whey Protein - like this one, very good product)
  • Creatine (Xpand - gives good pump, okay gains/ Revenge V3 - drinkable taste, modest gains/ S.A.N. Cubed - smells/tastes like glue. stopped using it.)



I'm happy to be here and thank you for reading.

Blaze
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:10 AM
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Welcome to the forum blaze

Questions:

1. What training method is the most effective for me? (method that is most likely to put as much mass possible on a hardgainer)

At this point I would think anything with a planned progression would be bennificial. Using a pyramid like you mentioned isn't bad, I've seen some gains like that before, but it depends on your lifts, and what your doing for each muslce. Post up your full routine for the week and we'll take a look at it.

2. What nutritional tips do you have for a (short on $) student? (I can make a diet, no problem, just need affordable ingredients or other tips?)

The most affordable way to get good nutrition IMO will be utilize a bulk shopping store (here in the states there are places called Sams club, BJ's, Costco). If you can, if not, there are cheap protien sources like canned tuna, flank steak, lean ground beef. On the carbs side, bulk oats are cheap, as is whole grain bread, and pitas and such.

3. What affordable quality supplements can help put on mass for a hardgainer? The list of supplements i tried so far:
Weightgainer (MAMMOTH - ony w.g. i tried, didn't work for me)
Whey Protein (EAS 100% Whey Protein - like this one, very good product)
Creatine (Xpand - gives good pump, okay gains/ Revenge V3 - drinkable taste, modest gains/ S.A.N. Cubed - smells/tastes like glue. stopped using it.)

Whey protein - ON's (optimum nutrition) 100% whey
Carbs - bulk dextrose and malto dextrin (very cheap)
Creatine - Any bulk mono will do you good, I like Primaforce
Citruline Malate - again bulk powder is the way to go, primaforce is cheap
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:29 AM
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:31 AM
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Thx a lot hrdgain, i'm gonna make a workout & nutritional plan based on your info.

I'll post it when It's finished.

Thx again!
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:58 AM
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^^ sounds good blaze, I'd be happy to look over it for you.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:20 PM
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Welcome to the board Blaze.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:06 PM
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http://www.vitaminworld.com/pages/fi...CID=5&CPID=917

5lb creatine for 23.99...
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:59 AM
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