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Old 04-05-2008, 01:47 PM
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Why would more expensive creatine mean it's better?

oh, ok thanks for that, my creatine was excellent when i first got it and was so suprised it cost me $20, but it started to slow down so though i needed a change, should i go back to it or can you suggest any others?

thanks for that about my training didnt really think about it like that, its hard to do heavy squats, deads and benching as i dont have to heavy weights in my gym and no spotter or smith machine. But ill try my best.

Was thinking this instead, correct me again if it needs it;

Day 1 - Chest, Traps, Tris (or stick traps with back?)

Day 2 - Legs, Shoulders, Abs

Day 3 - Back, Bis

Or

Day 1 - Chest, Traps, Tris

Day 2 - Legs, Bis, Abs

Day 3 - Back, Shoulders
For creatine, I found that ProLab is pretty good.

Again, with this training, you need to ditch the split and stick with something that is full body. Meaning you're squatting everyday, benching once or twice a week, deadlifting one day, plus some other pull and push compound added in. Mainly you should be looking at the exercise layout of the starting strength program.

ie:
Day 1
Squat
Bench
Row

Day 2
Light Squat
Press
Deadlift

Day 3
Squat
Bench
Row

Not something exactly like this. This is not a routine, there are no reps, its only a collection of basic exercises. And before you ask, no, day 1 and day 3 are not the same. They will differ by reps/sets or variations of an exercise, mainly something will set them apart in some way.
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Old 04-06-2008, 04:49 AM
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ok ok im getting you now! just a few final questions,

so on the two benching days do DB one day and BB one day or both twice a week?

and the two rows, upright and bent over?

should i be adding some tris bis and abs at the end of the 3 work outs?

should i be doing 5x5 on the squats, bench, deads and rows? then maybe higher for my smaller muscles?

thanks for the help will be trying it out today.
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Old 04-06-2008, 06:46 AM
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so on the two benching days do DB one day and BB one day or both twice a week?

and the two rows, upright and bent over?

should i be adding some tris bis and abs at the end of the 3 work outs?

should i be doing 5x5 on the squats, bench, deads and rows? then maybe higher for my smaller muscles?

thanks for the help will be trying it out today.
You could do do BB bench both days, doing 5x5 one day and 1x5 the other. You could do DB one day and BB the other but it will be difficult to track your progression.

Rows are the same, I would pick two 'bent over' variations, not upright rows. You could do the same as bench, 5x5 one day and 1x5 the other.

Try not to do any arms and see how things work for a bit, they will grow without any accessory work. You can do abs and if you really have to do arms then do a bicep or a tricep exercise, not both and only 2-3 sets (maybe 8-12 reps) of one exercise.

Squats are the same as bench and rows. 5x5 one day, a light 5x5 another, and a 1x5 the last day.

I'm not sure if anyone else noticed what I did here. But I basically just gave you the exercise setup for DFT Its a more 'advanced' setup, although what I gave here is only half of what makes DFT DFT.

I'm still going to strongly suggest you take a look at the Starting Strength program. Take a look at the journal section, Pitysister is doing it and has a good journal for it right now. SS is much better for you at this point.
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