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oh btw i dont take Protein...its bad for ur kidneys...

First off, Protein is not bad for your kidneys. What research have you done to come to this conclusion?


By not taking protein do you mean your a vegen or you don't drink protein shakes?

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LMAO ofcourse i eat meat man. no way im a vegan....i meant that EXCESS protein and protein shakes too much can damage the kidneys. and yes its true, ask ur doctor if u dont believe me. The kidney forms the urine and the kidney works with the urea that the excess aminoacids make....

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Well define excess.

The only info on the subject that I have come across is excessive protein can cause problems with people of have existing kidney problems.

btw take things Doc's say with a grain of salt, especially if they are not sports med docs.

Mine told me creatine is bad for you.

And I'm sure you can find one that will tell you how bad dead lifting and squatting are for you to

ash, protein is not bad for u. there is no such thing as excess protein if there is excess water. so if u have a shitload of protein powder and a lot of water, ur fine.

we use a simple scale to calculate how much protein one should have.

1.5 x ur bodyweight = xxx grams of protein.

so lets say u weight 200 lbs. in that case, ur protein intake will be

1.5 x 200 = 300 grams of protein per day

now, even if u go upto 350 its fine provided ur drinking a lot of water.

protein powder is good for u and u shouldnt worry so much about it. ask me. i am petrified of supplements but stuff like whey, weightgainers, BCAAs are cool in my book because they wont kill me.

also: dont always listen to doctors. while some of them know what they are talking about, a lot of them dont. if urs told u that all protein powders are bad, then i dont think he knows what he is talking about.

u mentioned amino acids. ur protein powders ARE amino acids. so is the meat u eat. remember: supplements are there to supplement ur diet - not replace it. so if u eat a LOT of meat then ur gonna get ur protein requirements through that right away.

also, protein shakes are good pre and post workout meals. they arent meals as a whole, but they are good ad ons.

right now at ur stage u need to accept the fact that ur tiny and scrawny and u need to get big. the only way to do that is to train correctly and eat more than enough. u need to eat a LOT to be honest.

so read up the articles pasted here, post ur questions and enjoy ur stay as u try to get big and strong.

peace

Sentinel

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Ash, in order to grow to your potential you need to train hard, get the proper rest and feed the body with quality nutrients. To max out your potential you definitely need protein and for most people their diet is simply not enough. Sentinel gave you a lot of good information on taking protein powders and increasing your water intake. Protein is NOT bad for you at all and will help transform you into the monster you want to be. Train hard and good luck.

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That is bullshit. People rely on doctors even when they dont know their stuff.

I just had a blood and urine test done. I have consumed massive amounts of protein powder for 17 years now, in addition to high protein food. There was some protein in my urine meaning that I eat over the consumption and some protein passes my kidneys. Absolutely no problem at all. Krea -values were good.

Muscles are built with protein. If you want to gain muscle you have to make sure that your body gets all it needs. A protein deficit will not bring you results.