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haha...i wasn't...i have not been in this game for very long i thought you just shit the excess out....nobody ever says...i'm trying to cut the fat off my body...so i'll eliminate protein too...it's always carbs or fat that you hear about...

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Protein needs actually increase as cals get to lower levels. At higher levels, you don't need to be taking in 2g/pound (or even higher) like some people think. Really, that's just an expensive way to get more cals in when you're on a higher cal diet.

Not everything that's in excess of your needs ends up in the toilet. That's why people still gain fat when they 'bulk'.

well thank you ma'am.

Carbs and fat usually drop out first because if you want to keep your muscle, protein is paramount.

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Good point.

The elevated insulin levels associated with high GI carbs are why they get so much attention. And fat is sooo calorie dense. It has a tendency to be stored depending on insulin levels.

The .5g/lb is typically for athletes that are not trying to gain mass. For somebody that is trying to put on muscle mass, the requirements are significantly higher.

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Absolutely!!

Ik, you know this whole "protein never turns to fat" is a widespread belief. It's all over the place. I really find it hard to believe that people could be so illogical but there it is. I guess the simple common sense never occurs to people: It has 4 calories per gram, lol.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

I'm not sure which one bugs me more...'protein never turns to fat' or 'you can turn fat into muscle'