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[over 40]

LIPO-6 May 2005 issue, page 81. On the gentleman in the lower left corner Day 1 to Day 90. I have a hard time believing the Pic. Any comments. I'm trying a new one, Muscle Milk, Cytosport- anyone with comment on this product. Semper-fi

[over 40]

Brand name Cytosport, Muscle milk. PER serv. Total fat 18g , Protien32g , carb 12g , Sodium200mg , Potasium595mg , Cholesterol 595mg , sugars 6g , Vit, a,c,d,e,b12,cal,thi,rib,folic,niacin, panththenic acid,mag,zinc, copper,biotin,33%. chromium100mcg. This is listed on the suppliment facts. On the front lable -Creatine GCC, Leanlipids, grothpeptides, complete a-b caseins,peptides and lactalbumins, lactoferrin, secretory IGA. Any help on what the heck I'm putting in the system. Just looking for a good protien supp. to go along with a low fat diet to help with the build. Been lifting for awhile, New to the suppliments so any help appreciated.

[Darkhorse]

Nutrition Facts:
Serving Size: 2 scoops (75g)
Servings Per Container: 15
Amount Per Serving % DV*
Total Calories 348
Calories From Fat 162
Total Fat 18 g 20%
Saturated Fat 4 g 20%
Cholesterol 3 mg 1%
Sodium 200 mg 8%
Potassium 595 mg 17%
Total Carbohydrates 12 g 4%
Dietary Fiber <2 g 8%
Sugars 1 g
Protein 32 g 64%
Vitamin A 33%
Vitamin C 33%
Calcium 33%
Iron 33%
Vitamin D 33%
Vitamin E 33%
Thiamin (B1) 33%
Riboflavin (B2) 33%
Niacin (B3) 33%
Pyridoxine (B6) 33%
Folic Acid 33%
Cyanocobalamin (B12) 33%
Biotin 33%
Pantothenic Acid 33%

*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

Ingredients:
EVOPRO(TM) Our Custom Evaluation based protein, peptide, and amino acid matrix, designed to closely reflect the nitrogen components and ratios found in human mother's milk (Micellar Alpha and Beta Casiens and Cassienates, Whey concentrates, ect...

Just like the name states, it's predominately casien (milk) protein. It has 32 grams of protein per serving, which is good, but about 60-70% of it is probably casien (slow digesting protein, best utilized throughout day and right before bed.) The fat content I highlighted as being very high for a regular protein product. I wouldn't classify this as a weight gainer because of the very low amount of carbohydrates. In light of this, I think it's wise to use this in between meals in the day. This way you can burn off alot of that fat content while utilizing the casien to keep your body supplied with protein. I would not use this pre/post workout: That territory belongs to whey protein solely. I also wouldn't use it right before bed because of the 18 grams of fat. It looks like a great protein for daytime use....Just my opinion. ;)

[over 40]

Thanks,lots of help.

[Darkhorse]

Yes, weightgainers are classified as having at least 50 grams of carbs and a acceptable amount of fat.
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?cPath=34 See for yourself...
That being said, you have to structure your diet around weightgainer shakes. Of course too much carbs are counterproductive, and 30% of one's diet should come from fat. People, like myself, opt for weightgainer shakes for the carbs. I also don't see why you'd drink the 18 grams of fat right before bed. I understand your explanation, but I'll try and find some references on the web whether that's a bad idea or not. ;)

[over 40]

Also I'm taking amino 2222 caps, Ornithine 4mg , alanine 80mg , arginine 170mg aspartic acid 250mg , caritine 4mg , cystine 20mg , glutimate 350mg , glycine 90mg , histidine 50mg , isoleucine 100mg , leucine 160mg , lycine 140mg , methionine 30mg , phenylalnine 120mg , proline 110 mg , serine 100mg , threonine 100mg , tryptophan 170mg , valine 100mg. Comments or opinions ??

[apocalypse]

If I were to be u I wont use musclemilk, I would rather use N Large 2 or 311's favorite, Serious mass. U beat my ass in to buying those things 311, my order will be here in two days.

[Darkhorse]

Originally Posted by apocalypse

If I were to be u I wont use musclemilk, I would rather use N Large 2 or 311's favorite, Serious mass. U beat my ass in to buying those things 311, my order will be here in two days.

I just use serious mass on my off days from work. I'm too lazy to cook so I down 1 scoop twice in that particular day. I ran out now, so I just have N-Large-2.

[Darkhorse]

Originally Posted by over 40

Also I'm taking amino 2222 caps, Ornithine 4mg , alanine 80mg , arginine 170mg aspartic acid 250mg , caritine 4mg , cystine 20mg , glutimate 350mg , glycine 90mg , histidine 50mg , isoleucine 100mg , leucine 160mg , lycine 140mg , methionine 30mg , phenylalnine 120mg , proline 110 mg , serine 100mg , threonine 100mg , tryptophan 170mg , valine 100mg. Comments or opinions ??

I guess every little bit helps. I just re-read this thread and saw this. I think that everything on that list very underdosed to render any effect. Is this per serving? If so, very underdosed. For instance, I'll pull out some examples:

Glutamine 350 mg.-Suggested serving: at least 10-15 grams
Arginine 170 mg.- Suggested serving: around 3 grams
*leucine 160 mg.- Suggested serving: 1-12 grams daily

Alot of products do something like this because more often than not the consumer only sees the ingredients, not how much it contains. I'd say again, switch to something else if you haven't already. ;)

[Darkhorse]

Originally Posted by TAURUS

What the diff between glutamine and glutamate? Is the 'mate' a processed version?

Huh, read it wrong, but I wasn't too far off...
Monosodium glutamate (MSG) is the sodium salt of glutamic acid, an amino acid which is present in all protein.

I tried to find it's uses, and all I found was that it doesn't have anything to do with bodybuilding. Something about it's a food additive.