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Old 07-10-2007, 09:48 AM
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I wanna ask is it advisable to have lesser calories as the day progresses. The reason I am asking this question is that I have noticed that in my drive to get bulk up I have accumulated fat around tummy too. Please advise me what to do as I want to continue growing but also want to keep my tummy in shape
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:14 AM
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you could taper down your cals through the day if you wanted, but there are two major things to consider IMO. First, your focus should be on overall calorie intake, not on what you eat later in the day. People tend to think that if they eat close to bed that they will get fat, but that simply isnt true.

Second, the only real timing issue you need to worry about is around your workouts. I would make sure to get in a good percentage of your cals around your workouts, meaning the meals before and after your workout shakes. Make sure your body has nutrients around those time, then trim up some cals on your other meals. that would be my suggestion.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:01 PM
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In instances of bulking, re: nutrient timing, it's an individual choice. Primary goal is getting in the required nutrients you need in order to allow your body to make gains. Some people prefer to taper calories, and some people don't.

I prefer to taper them, centering my carbs around breakfast, pwo, and ppwo (and that's with training being after my am meal). My afternoon meals are more just proteins, fats, and veggies with fish oils in two of those.

Protein levels stay the same in each meal. Be sure you're getting enough to support the muscle growth.

In terms of your fat gains, that's going to lie more in your caloric intake than it is in nutrient timing. First thing you've got to remember though, is that in order to make sufficient gains in mass, you're most likely going to have to have some fat gain in there too. It IS possible to make mass gains with little to no BF accumulation, however it tends to be a lot longer process with very strict calorie monitoring. Which is something most people aren't very akin to doing during a bulking phase.

If you feel as though you're accumulating fat in your midsection too rapidly, then chances are you're ingesting a higher level of calories than you're really needing. Back off your calories a bit and see how things go (generally you want to be 500 cals over maintenance/day in order to make a 1 pound lbm gain/week).

It's trial and error on an individual basis to see what you need to do in order to make the gains you want with a level of fat gain that you're comfortable with.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:21 PM
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I agree with what Hrdgain and IronKitten have said. The only thing I would add is that while it is more difficult to gain muscle with too little fat gain OR fat in general there is a point where too much fat makes it more difficult also. So it's not just a matter of how comfortable you are with your gut. If you allow youself to put on more than 12 to 15% (and tending in the middle would be better) than muscle gain would tend to slow down because of reductions in various hormone responses. Of course there are going to be various individual responses. I'm only speaking of a general tendency. Not too mention the fact of how hard it is to drop it while retaining mass later.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Thanx but here is more

I have read that one should take less glycemic index food as day progress which is why I asked my earlier question. So does this fact concurs the theory that there should be tapering of calories intake.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:05 PM
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Dido with Hrdgain and IronKitten, get the proper nutrients pre and post work out times.. You can shave the calories at other times. This may not be the norm, but I work out late. I try and get most of my calories in during the day, before my work out, and immediately after. After post work out, I take in minimal carbs and sugar.. Mainly protein shakes.
Seems like if I don't take in carbs closer to bed time I feel a lot less bloated and fat the next day. I just wake up feeling more lean each day. It's starting to show. No expert, just what's been working for me to keep weight off and gain some good mass. Like I said though I work out late.. I finish at 8, to 9pmish..... So after post its just protein till bed time for me.
Been working for me. 6' 1", Weighed 289, 13 months ago. Sitting on 204 right now, and building more lean mass. Fat in th abdomen is what I have left right now, so I'm with ya. Working on it myself and seeing improvements.
My 2 cents for whatever its worth, I'd aprrecaite feed back on the same subject.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:21 PM
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Not sure I was clear but a meal after your post work out shake is very important too. One of the times you'll need it the most. Sorry for the extra post it note here.. LoL
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