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yeah I wouldn't worry about it too much either

i gotta go along with kevsworld on this one. .75-1 gr per lb of bodyweight is plenty in my own experience and its a hell of a lot cheaper than scarfing down endless steaks, chicken, tuna and shakes. for the most part i think the ultra high protein intake ideas were perpetrated by the BBing mags and supplement companies. not saying it wont work, obviously it can but is it neccessary? is it the high protein intake that's responsible for the gains or is it just the overall calorie increase that goes along with it? Even Lou Ferrigno scoffed at the ultra high pr intake recommendations floating around and Ellington Darden has put plenty of muscle on guys with a mere 10-15% of their diets coming from protein.

oh and our bodies are not made of mostly protein, they are made of mostly water. i forget exactly but its something like 75-80% i think.

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I know this is a moot point to anyone who has been taking protein for any length of time and I hate to mention this again BUT....
Every time I see a thread on protein intake and someone concerned over whether they might be getting too much it makes me wonder if that person is assuming they are getting the amount of protein they "think" they are. When it comes to protein drinks, the companies claimed levels of protein per serving, and the amount the human body obsorbs and actually synthesizes from that serving are usually so far off it's not even remotely close. If for instance the label of your favorite protein drink claims that a serving provides 50 grams per serving and you are gulping down that full serving each time you have a shake, You are only making the manufacturer of your favorite protein happy and I assure you that some of that protein is going right down the toilet! In additon to that, VERY few companies claims are even close to realistic. So, if you are buying your protein and assuming you are getting 50 grams in that serving you can pretty much forget it. There are ways to help your body with protein sythesis and one of them is to take digestive enzymes. But even using them only provides a few more grams of synthesis per drink than without them. Financially, and realistically, you are better off cutting the suggested dose in half and assuming you're only getting about 25-30 grams each time you gulp down a shake. And THAT my friend is a very generous figure! THIS is one of the many things your suppliers don't want you to know. All this said, if you have been going through a 5 pound jug a month and wondering why protein is so expensive, save yourself some money, drink smaller doses more often and stop feeding your toilet the rest.

http://www.cbass.com/Protein_Muscle.htm

http://www.livestrong.com/article/53...sted-per-hour/

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/rr-whey-too-much

that's just another reason to ditch shakes in favor of solid food. imo the only time a shake is really a good idea is if you dont have the time to take in anything ele (i.e. its better than nothing at all) and of course pre-to-post w/o when having solid food is neither practical nor a very good idea unless you like throwing up, lol.
the hype on protein supplements is insane. a few years ago i worked with a kid who came walking in one day with a big tub of powder and he's going on how he's gonna get big and all that so i ask him what kind of a workout is he doing and he said "oh, i dont workout!"

end of conversation, lol.

While I do agree with you. In part, I dont think that ditching them altogether is the answer either. Your protein requirments are easily met when your 5'10 and weigh 180. Not so easy when you're 6'2" and 225, or more. Protein shakes have their place as do whole foods. And this conversation will never end as long as someone is working out and trying to better themselves. Saying end of conversation may sound funny, but I doubt you've changed anyones mind regarding the use of protein powder. Next to the sex trade, suppliments are at the top of the food chain and a multi billion dollar a year business..

sorry i meant 'end of conversation' with that kid, meaning when he told me he doesnt even train i wasnt gonna waste another second talking to him.

i'm not looking to change anyones mind, just stating my opinion.

I understand. The problem with this forum is we get alot of people that drop in and ask one question as if this is the answer to all their problems then we never see them again. I use protein powder myself. Some people don't. I do respect that.

I consistently take in around 200 grams of protein a day. Mostly from whole foods. However, protein shakes are important immediately after workout. I am a big believer in protein shakes, foods, beef aminos, all good stuff. Most people don't drink enough water that is the reason for concern. Just my thoughts and experience.

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Personally I go hunting for unicorn blood and mix it with mothers milk from a human, I don't even work out and I weight 350 with 5% body fat...

Dude, whole food is best, shakes are sometimes necessary, just eat a balanced diet with a solid workout and you'll be fine, to eat enough protein to hurt yourself you would have to try really hard. Don't over think it. =]