The last UFC - Couture vs Lidell II
What did you homre's think of the last UFC? I thought the show was good -even if the main event was anti-climatic- but I wagered on Randy and lost $$$. I knew Lidell was a vicious striker, but I had not considered that he might blind Couture with by sticking his thumb right inside of Randy's right eye socket. That seemed to finish Couture, as he didn't even bother mounting a defense after that foul. The end was inevitable.
I can only assume Randy will want to go to the rubber match and try and get revenge. It's going to make for an interesting Ultimate Fighter tv series next year when they have to work together again. Anybody else watch it? Raven |
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Even someone like Gilbert Yvel, Vanderlei Silva, Chuck Lidell, etc. can get their clocks cleaned by one of the other guys buddies in the crowd. So, stand up versus ground doesn't even matter here, when the guy who you're fighting has buddies waiting while you're back is turned and bam! In the end it doesn't matter if you are a Pit bull, as you can still get killed by a pack of poodles attacking you all at once! If you ever end up in a street fight it's a weird situation, where everything you say you would do if you ever got into this situation, goes out the window. You begin fighting out of pure instinct and survival. And everyday that you are in the dojo, academy, whatever kind of training comes into critical play. One thing to like I said it's better to learn both stand up and ground techniques, you don't want to be the stand up guy that never learned ground techniques and end up on the ground with a guy that is a ground technician and now is in a better position than you to take out both your eyes or bite your nose off! Also, you don't want to be a "ground and pound fighter" as this only works if you are fighting a guy smaller than you, and you will end up on the top. What if the guy is bigger than you, and pits you on the ground? All in all anything can happen in a street brawl, and it's better not to get into a brawl at all if possible. Maybe hrdgain is right and it's better just to carry a gat! This way nobody dares to mess with you that night....hmmnnn. |
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I agree... I think we agree on the same points, just come at them from different views... :) |
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However, it is possible to fight multiple attackers and win if you must. It is also completely viable to get your ass handed too you. The point is you never know what your up against. so my philosphy is this, hit hard, hit fast, and get the hell out of there. Not to mention if your in a fight, you dont want to stick around for the cops to show up, even if you did win your going to jail, so is that really a win? I didnt get to see the payperview, I am pissed. can you give me a lil rundown, who came out on top? |
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The Matt Hughes vs. Trigg that fight was awsome! Matt Hughes came out on top. As far as the other fights let me watch them all tonite, as I have them on tape. I just wanted to watch the main fights first, before the other smaller ones. |
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First Round started off with each guy circling. One thing was clear...Lidell was out for blood. He was hitting harder and more agressively than I've seen him before. Couture kept his cool (as is his MO). They both landed a couple of glancing blows, nothing serious, then....in a harmless looking exchange, Couture comes out holding his eye in excrutiating pain. He looked like he was going to drop unconscious from it. It appears that Lidell actually punched him/thumbed him so hard that his thumb went right in to Couture's eye socket (keep in mind, this is like half way through the first round). Couture was still in serious pain a few more seconds in and took a knee. Lidell looked like he was going to jump him, but hesitated. The ref looked like he didn't know what the F to do. Then Couture told him what happened and he gave Randy time to recover. I'm not sure about UFC rules on this, but usually it's up to five minutes to recover. Randy took about 30 seconds and then said he could continue. His eye was watering badly, and he still had a look in his eye like he was hurting. They began again, Lidell jumped right on him with non-stop punches to the face (targeting that right eye of Couture's) He knocked him unconscious in the air, and Randy fell straight on his back out cold on the ground. Lidell jumped him and hit him with two more monster punches to the face (while he was out cold). The ref stopped the fight.
That's what happened. Raven |
:eek: wow... was there any replay on the "thumb" strike?
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Dave the reason I say it could have been a fix is they (Zuffa, Dana White)own both fighters, the ref, and the odds were against Lidell. When betting is involved anything can happen.
Randy is getting up there in age and the UFC needs younger blood. Look these guys are fighters, don't think that for a moment they wouldn't take a dive for the right amount of money. There training is fierce and getting knocked out in training is part of the game sometimes. I personally talked to a Pride FC bonafide champion a few months back when he was visiting the Academy down in Torrance. I had asked him about training with Pele Landi and if he was as tough sparring as in the ring. His reply was " There were days that he would knock me out and days I would knock him out". The reason I'm conveying this conversation, is to reiterate that these guys sacrifice their bodies in training, can you imagine when there are millions of dollars on the line. If someone were to tell me "Hey Dave(my name)we need you to throw this fight, if you do there will be a nice payday today, plus you will get a bigger payday for a rematch tomorrow just make it look convincing"! These guys are in it for the money also and sadly they just don't get paid like other professional athletes. I believe that they should, but they don't. How much do you think they will get for a Rematch? If Randy would have won that would have been 2 losses delivered to Chuck, by Randy. A third fight would have been still been paid very good, but now since they are both 1 win and 1 loss, this next fight will determine who is the better of the two. This makes it more exciting then the other way around. It was a great fight and BR laid it down perfect! I don't know if it was a fix, and I hate thinking this way. But, like I said when you have millions of dollars in betting, it taints any sport. |
I have done several styles since I was a kid. Some of them I have studied are Wushu KungFu, Sanshou, Taichi, Mua tai kickboxing, and currently studying Shotokan. I find mixing up the styles are great for an all over knowledge. I also agree with several of the points you guys made.
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