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i'm hungry with 3200 cals and i'm half his size...

That's what I'm saying. I'm content at about 4,000, but I feel good at 5,000 calories.

Not at all.. Remember that I've moved up from as little as 2500 cals on my deficit. 3,200 is baseline. If you include BCAA's and little things that add up in a day, on training days I'm closer to 3,400.

Also, keep in mind that a very big part of dieting is that you're picking up whole foods predominantly, in which it takes A LOT of to hit your totals. So today's menu excluding my postworkout meal:

- 2.5 whole chicken breasts
- 3 sweet potatotes (cooked in 12 tsp olive oil)
- 2 cans tuna (w/ 2 tbsp mayo), 4 pieces of whole grain bread
- 50 grams whey, 5 tsp heavy cream, 1 apple

Postworkout meal was a 65 gram whey, 50 dextrose w/ 30 grams BCAA's pre/during workout.

So, my point is that it's a lot to put down your gullet. Other days a meal for me would be 12 egg whites, 1 whole, 2 pieces whole wheat bread, and an apple. Trust me, it's enough! I wish eating 4,000 cals were as easy as using whole milk and whole eggs, but that's a huge mistake IME. That's what was responsible for me hitting a higher bodyfat percentage over the years. As of now, I'm still using the redpoint software, and 3300 cals is EXPENSIVE.... IF you're doing it the RIGHT way and eating good whole foods.

Now, if you're still hungry all the time, it's not at all difficult to substitute your low gi carbs for an abundance of broccoli, is it? I'll NEVER again recommend irresponsible dieting in order to hit 4-5 thousand cals. I'm finally down to the mid teens bodyfat wise.

Just think about this. Think back to when you first started lifting. How many people here do you think got fat as they were building muscle? There's A LOT, trust me. But noone ever said it was easy neither lol.

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yeah...i definitely put on some chub during my "bulking" phase...but now i'm down to all whole foods...on weekends i usually put down a pound of chicken and beef a day....whole wheat pasta...veggies/fruit...pb..olive oil.

i definitely drop alot of cash a week i've leaned out and i'm back up to where i was strength wise even being about 14 pounds down. and i like it

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Crazy talk! I can easily manage 4,000 clean calories for about $10/day and hit a good macronutrient ratio. I buy in bulk and plan my meals for most of the week though.

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Are you actually measuring it out though or just guesstimating by the food labels?

I buy most things in bulk no doubt. But you need to know what my definition of "expensive" is in this day and age.

Also, keep in mind that there's A LOT of trainees (olympic, powerlifting, and otherwise) that prefer to stay in a certain weight range. Guess how they do it guys? If I can keep increasing my GPP and most importantly strength WHILE losing a few pounds, then I'm not changing anything. If I was having any problems, then I'd increase my cals. My needs are a lot different than yours. I already have the size, so I'm looking to be as strong as possible while losing some fat (which is more than possible). You guys definately would need 4-5's more than I (thank God!).

That makes a lot more sense now.

I agree 100% with DH . I'm taking in 2800 cals on training days ( sometimes a bit more ) and I'm finding that alot of whole food. I am starting to take in more protein powder to help with the extra cost. I'm spending most of my $$ on fruits and vegtables and their is alot of them in my diet , shit I spend more on those then chicken now.

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especially if you're getting all the veggies fresh and not canned/bagged.

Fresh is the only way to go.