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Doug's starting from scratch, need help!! Journal
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09-06-2008, 01:07 PM
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form needs to be right on, or your not doing yourself any good.
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Do you try to lift it straight up, or slightly forward (80 degrees)?
By lack of form I mean cheating, rocking it up a bit.. I'll take it down to 90 next time..
Mind you, I'll be trying out my "Starting Strength" routine by then, and I don't think this excersize is on there (not any of these, in fact)..
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don't do machine squats. man up and put barbell on your back
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D'oh.... :(
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09-08-2008, 07:21 PM
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Weight after breakfast and b.m. 208lbs
Good workout today..
6:30pm:
Drank a Pre WO shake of a banana, 1 tbsp of PB, and a cup of milk.
(noxious flatulence!! No more bananas for me!!)
2000mg of fish oil Omega 3 tablets.
7:30pm:
30 min. on the treadmill or 2.7miles
(5 min warm-up, 5 min cool down, 20 min @6mph x 1.5 incline).
I did chest excersizes first, instead of lats first.
made a big difference with my chest workout..
Bench: 2x10 push-ups for a warm up, then 90x3
Sigh.. It's a start.. :(
Machine seated fly: 135x5
Pull ups: x10 x5 x5
Barbell Row: 100x5
Form was sloppy.. Will try 90 next time
Cable straight arm pull-down 60 x5
Great pump in lats..
8: 30pm: PWO shake, 2 cups of OJ, 1 multivitamin, 35g of whey.
9:30pm: 2 whole eggs, 3 whites, 3 tbsp salsa, 35g of cheddar, 1 tomato, 1 orange.
Cals for the day: 2680 37% protein , 43% carbs, 20% fat
250g of protein (too much?)..
Man, I love this Fit Day app!
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09-08-2008, 07:34 PM
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250g of protein (too much?)..
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No such thing! Ok, maybe for people that have renal failure or in other weird cases. Don't worry about it. If you start getting over 400g of protein per day, then worry. 250g/day is a good number. No reason to get any less than that.
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Last edited by Ross86; 09-09-2008 at 04:46 AM.
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09-08-2008, 07:46 PM
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Ok, cool..
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09-12-2008, 10:09 PM
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Friday, Sept 12/08.
Weight after breakfast and BM= 208
Calories for the day: 3100, 250g of protein.
My first day trying the the starting strength excersizes.
My form will be terrible, but I'm trying to get all I can from videos and the starting strength book..
Workout A
Squat:
2 x bar x 5
2 x 50 x 5
1 x 70 x 5
3 x 80 x 5
Wish I had a video to show you guys.. But it FELT ok..
Was weird but I felt it more in the glutes than the quads..
Tightening up the traps really worked.. No pain in the back at all..
My rotator cuffs however were begging for mercy!!
Bench:
2 x bar x 10
1 x 30 x 5
1 x 40 x 5
1 x 50 x 5
1 x 70 x 5
1 x 90 x 3
2 x 80 x 2
Some bad form on my last set of 80 made me want to go down in weight and do 2 more sets with good form.. Was pretty spent after those..
Deadlift
1 x 50 x 5
1 x 70 x 5
1 x 90 x 5
1 x 110 x 5
1 x 130 x 5
Felt good, though my form was pretty bad, I imagine.. Made sure to scrape my shins going up, lower by sticking my butt out, more than bending over.
Abs
3 x incline crunches with 25lbs on chest.
45 x 2 reverse bycycles
Both of these hurt my hip flexors after those squats, so from now on I'll just do regular crunches
Can someone suggest good warm-up progressions to my working sets, now that I've zeroed the starting set weights?
Last edited by dougz; 09-13-2008 at 12:20 PM.
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09-12-2008, 10:33 PM
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Was weird but I felt it more in the glutes than the quads..
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Good!
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Can someone suggest good warm-up progressions to my working sets, now that I've zeroed the starting set weights?
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For a push or pull movement, I warm up doing several sets of unilateral pushes or pulls with a resistance band. Then I will do a set with just the bar (10 reps). Then I add about 70% of my first working set to the bar and do a set focusing on form (8 reps). Then I'll do a set of 4-6 reps at 80%. Then I typically do two sets for weight acclimation at about 90% & 95% for 2-3 reps. Sorry, those percentages are confusing me too. I'm just trying to get the point across of what I do. I'll list out some weights so you have an idea that might be more clear. This will probably be my next heavy squat workout:
2 sets of 10 BW squats A2G
135X5
185X5
225X3
245X2
275X1
Working sets: 3X5 @ 305lbs
Check this out: http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1778726
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09-13-2008, 09:26 AM
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Ok, that helps a bit, thanks!
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09-13-2008, 11:36 AM
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Drop the crunches. Crunches suck. Start in with prone planks instead. And do side planks. For flexion try ab pulldowns or janda situps if you can get someone to hold your legs or rig it somehow, saxon side bends (db overhead side bends), cable woodchops, russian twists. Not all on the same day, lol
Bar rollouts or a regular ab roller would also be a good thing to do.
Watch your shoulders. If it hurts so much it may be that you are holding the bar wrong during squats.
I would think about taking out the middle squat ("wednesday") and putting in a single leg variant of some kind. Maybe static split squats to start with. This will be of great benefit and allow some recovery, help train the hips and cut down the chance of injury. Also reduce some of the total stress to make it easier to handle the workload.
If you're doing the A-B-A format...I say don't. It's stupid to set it up so that the stress changes form week to week. Deadlifts are going to be the most draining. Deadlifting twice some weeks is just going to result in bad mojo. Just go A-B-C...
If I had my druthers, I'd want you to not even start the program right now but instead give yourself a honeymoon period with the lifts. The things a true beginner is going to get stronger pretty much no matter what. Just a few weeks of learning the movements, honing in the movement patterns, etc., will produce noticeable improvements in "strength". To say nothing of improvements in recruitment.
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Last edited by EricT; 09-13-2008 at 12:11 PM.
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09-13-2008, 12:26 PM
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Planks.. Ok.
I've been doing those with my former work-out routine..
Not side planks, though..
Rotator pain I'm sure is due to lack of flexibility..
I'm sure they'll come around..
No pain at all today.. Just the lower back a bit..
Will go for a run today..
I only did a 10 minute warm up jog yesterday, as per the advice on cardio that I got..
I'll start with the flexibility stuff next time..
As for messing with the formula/programming..
Isn't the mantra:
Don't mess with it!! don't add, don't subtract!!
So what should I do, if not the starting strength?
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09-13-2008, 12:37 PM
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well like eric said...ditch the heavy squat on wednesday...and replace it with a single leg movement. i liked to deadlift only on wednesday when i ran it...and then i would just rotate everything else...
so...
monday:
squat, bench, row
wed:
deadlift, single leg, mp
fri:
squat, bench, row
week 2:
monday:
squat, mp
wed:
deadlift, single leg/nothing, bench, row
fri:
squat, mp
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