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Riddick2112 02-07-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dougz (Post 76520)
Too do that I'd have to bend my knees. wouldn't I? And I thought I wasn't supposed to bend them till the bar was past my knees.. :02:

K, I'll keep it at 135..

i think you're bending your knees at the proper time but the problem as i see it is that you're not bending them enough! watch your last video again and take note of the position of your butt at the top of the movement and then watch how little it changes as the bar travels down to the floor again. on some reps it barely gets any lower than it was at the top of the rep! it seems you're starting the trip back to floor ok but when you bend your knees it aint enough and so your forced to pivot at your hips further to get the bar back to the floor causing your torso to reach an almost parallel position. to my mind when you're done with a rep your body should be back in the starting position ready to set the back for the next rep but you end up having to get yourself down into position after you've completed the rep and i think this is one of the reasons no two of your reps look very much alike. this is why i will strongly advise again that you not worry about loading the bar until you are able to get 5 good clean consistent reps in a set. Dont be in a rush with deads, they're one of the best but hardest exercises to even get just a decent form on nevermind to master.

i hope some of the other more knowledgable people will chime in and either verify what i've said here or point out the errors in my thinking because hey i wanna make sure i'm doing them right too!

Pitysister 02-07-2009 06:40 PM

your negative should start with your hips breaking...and your ass sticking out.


gotta learn how to hip hinge. stand up normally with your lower back arched. put your hands on your hips...slight bend in the knees. push your ass backwards...maintaining the arch in your back....and maybe acquiring some more knee bend. practice that.

Pitysister 02-07-2009 06:44 PM

i dunno about anybody else...but i like to have my hamstrings in a kinda "taut" ready to fire position. so i stand up a little more.

dougz 02-07-2009 07:06 PM

Ok, thanks guys, I'll try that..

THINK I see what you mean, but we'll see, I guess.. :)

Pitysister 02-08-2009 07:49 AM

do the hip hinge trick now....at home....no weight :)

dougz 02-09-2009 08:20 AM

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do the hip hinge trick now.
And this is what my deadlift should look like?

Feels like a squat, just with your feet closer together...

I'll do a video of it when I get a chance, of that, and me bending over the bar..

Feb 08

SQUAT

95x5x2
195x5x3

BENCH

115x5x2
140x5x3

I tried the wider grip (27" apart), and backed off 20lbs just in case this affected my lifts..

It did, of course.. I felt more stretch in the pecs, but it sure hurt my shoulders..

Should I just power through?

ROW

80x5x2
140x5x3

HANGING CHAIR LIFTS

10x3

iron_worker 02-09-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dougz (Post 76607)
Feels like a squat, just with your feet closer together...

Don't say that. Eric might kill you. lol

You will definately have more lower back movement in a deadlift as compared to a back squat.

IW

Ross86 02-09-2009 10:33 AM

Where is your grip in relation to the rings on bench press?

dougz 02-09-2009 12:27 PM

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Where is your grip in relation to the rings on bench press?
The rings WERE by my index fingers, I think..

The way this guy was suggesting was to have them a hand width further apart..

Like I say, they were around 21" apart, and I tried them at about 27-28..

Didn't feel right..

But maybe I just have to get used to it, I dunno..

If it helps, my shoulder width is about 20"..

Kane 02-09-2009 01:18 PM

Usual grip is PINKY on the ring. Index is a bit wide IMO.

If it hurts your shoulders, I don't think that pushing through the pain should even be an option.


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