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Kane 03-01-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dougz (Post 77685)
ie. doing 10 chin ups at once, rather than 5 x 2..

I thought that's how you get muscle growth, by fatiguing the muscle..

If you're trying to get stronger why would you want to do 10 reps when you could do 5 reps or 3 reps with a much heavier weight?

You're putting alot of focus on muscular fatigue but there are other types of fatigue at play as well. Muscular is simply the only one you can feel or judge, and its not a very good indicator for training effect.

Fatigue is not a goal, btw. The goal is to induce a training effect, ie lifting weights, and one of the side effects of this is fatigue.

If fatigue was the key to building muscle why would anyone deload?

Alot of the problems here are stemming from fundamental things. Life would be alot easier for you if you did more reading :)

Riddick2112 03-01-2009 10:52 AM

i'm not the guy to explain all that to you but you can fatigue a muscle plenty without causing one iota of muscle growth!

dougz 03-01-2009 11:05 AM

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Life would be alot easier for you if you did more reading
Looking that way, isn't it? LOL

Where would you start, if you were me, besides the SS book?

Riddick2112 03-01-2009 11:59 AM

here's one resource that hepled me to understand things much better than anything else i had found up to that point:

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...ing_Primer.htm

dougz 03-01-2009 12:06 PM

Great! I'll have a look, thanks!

Kane 03-01-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dougz (Post 77690)
Looking that way, isn't it? LOL

Where would you start, if you were me, besides the SS book?

THIS site would be a good start too :biglaugh:

dougz 03-01-2009 12:17 PM

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THIS site would be a good start too
Dude, I know.. :)

Which threads, though?

Riddick2112 03-01-2009 12:17 PM

i agree with Kane completely but a lot of links in the stickies training resources section are dead now it seems :-(

i figured pointing right to Madcow would save some frustration and time on Doug's part. :arg:

dougz 03-01-2009 12:21 PM

I'll look through some of the member articles..

They've been fact-checked, etc. right?

Ross86 03-01-2009 12:45 PM

If you haven't read all of the stickies, then start there. Read all of them.


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