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dougz 09-21-2008 07:09 PM

Thanks.. :)

iron_worker 09-22-2008 11:36 AM

The squats looked pretty good. You're just going to have to keep trying to get as low as possible while maintaining that back position as eric said. Some stretching on off days will help too. You won't get the depth you want right away but with time and practice, it will come.

Bench looked fine to me. Good work.

Deads: It seemed as though you were trying to get most of your ROM out of your bending at the hips. I would reccomend to get squatted down more with your knees so you're not so bent over to begin with. This will help the back rounding. Also, the standard size plates woudl be a big help too.

Press: I would try to go with a wider grip. My grip for press is slightly wider than my bench grip. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Overall, you're lookin real good to start out with.

IronWorker

widdoes2504 09-22-2008 06:27 PM

I agree with what has been brought up so far so all I can add is keep it up and good luck. :)

dougz 09-23-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

I would reccomend to get squatted down more with your knees so you're not so bent over to begin with.
Yeah, I was doing that, but then she told me I needed to get my shoulders more over the weight, and try to keep my knees from going over the bar..

So I made the adjustments, but it made me round my back, I think..

Back to the drawing board.. :)

Pitysister 09-23-2008 02:56 AM

your knees can go over the bar....they will get out of the way of the bar as you go up.

dougz 09-23-2008 08:29 AM

Yeah, I was wondering how I was going to manage not doing that..

I'm 6'3" :(

iron_worker 09-23-2008 12:51 PM

Deads are definately harder for taller people. They have a larger mechanical disadvantage. Also with the combination of you using those small plates you were having to get *way* down there.

IronWorker

Pitysister 09-23-2008 01:06 PM

it's between 8-9" that you want the bar from the floor...i'm pretty sure it's nine. that'll give you the height of olympic 45's.

EricT 09-23-2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IW
]Deads: It seemed as though you were trying to get most of your ROM out of your bending at the hips. I would reccomend to get squatted down more with your knees so you're not so bent over to begin with.

If he was using his hips for rom he would have already had his butt lower. Most of the "bending" was done at the lumbar.

One of the primary problems most everyone can have is not being able to differentiate hip flexion/extension from lumbar flexion/extension.

Just wanted to point that out to avoid confusion.

Good points made all around though.

dougz 09-23-2008 03:15 PM

Yup.. Thanks!


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