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Old 11-23-2006, 11:09 PM
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Got my latest order from trueprotein the other day. Took 2 days to get to me. Nothing special. 4 more pounds of waxy maize, 4 pounds of cold filtration isolate, and 5 lbs of 60/40 micellar casein/egg white protein.

I've got a free shipping coupon from bulknutrition to use so I'm planning on getting some more CEE and maybe some Xtend for my preworkout cocktail.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:31 AM
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Why dont you get Taurine as well?
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:16 PM
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Good question. It certainly is cheap enough. I'll probably be getting some ascorbic acid from TP because it's certainly been lacking in my diet.

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Vitamin C is therefore essential for tissue healing, such as from wounds and burns healing, as well as the structural adaptations that result from exercise training, such as muscle growth and strengthening of bone.

Vitamin C is also a powerful anti-oxidant, quenching reactive oxygen species (a type of free-radical) produced during exercise by itself becoming an oxidized molecule, but one that is harmless to the cell3. Because the mechanism of post-exercise muscle damage likely involves free-radical production6, several studies have examined the effect of Vitamin C on recovery. Although some studies have not suggested a favorable effect on post-exercise soreness and strength loss2, most research suggests that Vitamin C (~500mg / day) reduces muscle soreness and strength loss after especially strenuous or novel exercise1, 4, 5, 7, 8.

Vitamin C can be taken daily to promote connective tissue (muscle fascia, bone, etc.) health and aid in cellular quenching of destructive free radicals, along with other anti-oxidants such as ALA. Vitamin C could be taken in larger amounts during periods of especially intense or unaccustomed training, to promote recovery and minimize excessive muscle damage and soreness. Competitive bodybuilders seeking a diuretic effect might consider vitamin C as a natural means to “dry out” during the days before a competition.
Only $8 per pound. Other than that, I need some more mega dose vitamin and a seperate mineral supplement from Parillo.
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:21 PM
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DE SQUAT/DEADLIFT: Good day. Felt really good going in. Banded DE squats I reset back to 245 for the 8 x 2. Last week I used 265 and was pretty fast, so I'm planning on resetting the weight and build back up to 275 lbs. The following week after that I'll go for a new banded 1 RM, and so on...

SLDL's standing on plates I hit 305 for 3 x 8. Last set was very difficult. A real burner.

DB swings I moved back down to a 90 lb DB for 3 x 12. Both the hyper machines were being hogged by a few chicks, so I didn't bother. Banded abs pulldowns I ramped down from 18, 17, 16, 15 reps. Next time I'll just do 4 x 16-18 reps, which is good progress.
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:27 PM
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Hey bro I'd recommend against getting your vitamin C in a powder. It seems cost effective but being it's an antioxidant the powder is gonna, you guessed it, oxidize pdq on you. There no way you'll go through a pound before most of it's bad. I don't know why you want to get vitamins from bodybuilding companies anyway when you could save a ton elsewhere but on this you really should stick with the traditional tablets.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:36 PM
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^^ You win.
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:43 PM
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I just have trouble knowing they'd sell those types of supplements obviously knowing full well that it'll oxidize?

Additionally, I don't know very much about supplements outside of protein, BCAA's, carbs, and creatine. So if I sound stupid contemplating purchasing some "outside the box" supplements, there's a good reason for it.
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Old 11-24-2006, 05:18 PM
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Well you know there are plenty of supplement companies that just don't give a shit and will sell anything that people will buy. But if can understand about the powder and will give a guess about why they may just not know.

As far as the powder goes you can get away with it just not in these huge bulk quantities. That's one reason it's sold is for people who want to take huuuge amounts of it. Totallly unecessary amounts, imo. You can get one dose foil lined packets, btw, but that defeats the economics.

But in an ideal circumstance ascorbic acid as a crystal is going to be very stable. Then you disolve it in water and the clock is ticking because it begins to go very quickly. So this leads people to believe that it'll just last until they mix it. But the problem is every time you open it it absorbs moisture (it attracts moisture), is exposed to light, etc. and there you go. If it's stored in a hot place it'll go faster. There's simply no way you can use a large amount of it before the rest goes bad no matter how careful you are.

But you take a well meaning guy who owns a sup company and he looks up the stabibility of ascorbic acid crystals. He'll probalby get something like "stabile under normal conditions". What it doesn't say is that "normal conditions" are in a sealed airtight container in a cool dry place. And if trueprotein is shipping it in plastic bags....

It's understandable sometimes and my stratagy is to seek info from as many different types of sources on ANY sup so I can protect myself from wasting money. Hopefully I don't sound like the Cliff Claven of "outside the box" sups, though .
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Old 11-26-2006, 05:52 PM
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ME BENCH:

Felt pretty good today. Close Grip Bench I BARELY scraped by with 355 x 1 with a super light spot. I had the spotter stay with me with only his two fingers (sides of fingers) touching the bar. Off the chest I smoked it, then halfway up I started really stalling. My workup was: 225 x 5, 275 x 3, 325 x 1, 355 x 1. DROP set with 325 x 4 reps today.

Max effort triceps today was 4 board press. I've done 350-355 for a while now with a max of 5 reps by myself, so today forward I'm sticking with 365-failure. Whatever I get, I get. I did a set beforehand with 315 x 5 easy, then loaded the bar back up and got 3 of those fuckers. The board moving over my face didn't help. From now on, I plan on doing 315 x 5 every time, then the workset with 365, before finally doing a drop set with 315 (again) for however many reps. I really need to blast my triceps more than I have been.

Pendlay Rows I increased to 275 for 3 x 8. Got 'em all, but I want to stick with this for a few weeks until it becomes as easy as 265-270 was.

Seated DB Presses I increased as well. The first set 70 x 10 reps, then increased to 75's for my final two sets of 10. Nice and easy still. For these, I still use the really short-backed chair and practice looking slightly upward so these can better translate to my standing OHP's.

Face pulls with the stack +10 more pounds for 3 x 10, followed by barbell curls ss w/ some pressdowns. Again, I usually do some 20 rep banded pressdowns to end the workout, but I'd like to really start smoking my triceps so I can overcome my sticking point about halfway up. Pressdowns I used a short straight bar w/ the stack for 3 x 10.

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I've been thinking about a lot of my set PR's, and I think I'm very close to my absolute max for a lot of them. So from now on, if I don't feel AS strong, then I'll try to hit a weight that's right around my max for that exercise. If I feel great, then I'll shoot for a small 5 lb PR here and there. This mostly pertains ONLY to my PRESSING exercises. Squats and deads still have a lot of room for increases.

I just cannot realistically go on trying for PR's for my presses when I'm slinging a TON of weight IMO already. My max bench is around 395, so I can't get down on myself if I cannot beat it on a scheduled day.

So that's on the docket for me. If I don't think I can make it, I won't bother trying and instead nail the weight around my max to get the extra work in. Sooner or later, the PR's will come... But I cannot compare my first 20 weeks hitting PR's every time I enter the gym to now because NOW the bar is SOOO fucking high.
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Old 11-26-2006, 06:08 PM
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Thats a good way to think about it, after all youre human.

Trying to hit new PRs as scheduled may even be dangerous.
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