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Old 08-04-2008, 06:59 AM
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whats a bradford press??? matter of fact let me look it up real quick
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:13 AM
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Sorry for the slow responses guys I got a promotion at work so Im fairly busy with it nowdays!!!

Loved those bradfords, burnt my shoulders up good

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Old 08-05-2008, 04:20 AM
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ME Squat Day

Busted out a pretty good workout today, I did high bar box squats with a puss pad added to sort of emulate a manta ray, shit worked well and was tough to do, the high bar really throws ya forward,upper and lower back was fried after.I hit 135kg on the bar so that was sweet just 5 lbs less than my previous best free squat so Im hoping thats moved up a bit.Did some SLDL next these were good but easier than RDLs I thought they would be tougher.Finished with abs for 4sets and some pullthrus

ME Squat Day 4/8/08
High Bar w/Puss Pad Squat 1x1 120kg,130kg, 135kg, 3x1 125kg
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Abs 4 sets

Great workout
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Old 08-05-2008, 08:58 AM
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Good work Hopper. Nice vid btw.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:57 AM
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I have heard the behind the neck presses are hard on the shoulders. Any comments on this?

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Old 08-05-2008, 11:31 AM
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I thought those (in the vid) were referred to as rocky presses. My understanding of bradford presses is that the weight only gets lifted high enough to clear the head, even though the motion (front to back) is the same, the press is not executed through the full ROM.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:35 AM
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I have heard the behind the neck presses are hard on the shoulders. Any comments on this?

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Honestly, I think it is dependent on the individual and the flexibility/health of the shoulder girdle. They don't bother me so long as I don't try to go down past my ears in back (as a reference point). I have heard things through the years about how terrible these are for the shoulders...blah blah yakkity. But I think there have been plenty of people that have effectively used them without issue over the years.

Some people are built to bench, some people get injuries from it. Some people can squat, others get injuries.
Some people can brush their teeth, other get injuries... it really doesn't matter what it is, there are those that can, and for whatever reason there are those that can't.

I would say to take it easy at first. Light weights, perhaps use them as a warmup (bradfords are good for this) to loosen up the shoulder and then make your call from there.
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congrats on the promotion hop!!!!


i personally like behind the neck presses. i actually am able to feel some parts of my upper back being worked, but i have also tweaked my shoulder doing it. i agree that it is a dangerous type of excersice. you will get people screaming about how good it is and i def know you will get people saying how bad it is in the post that follow mine.

all in all i think it is a good supplementary excercise to do. i think every once in a blue its good to throw in (not to heavy though). i dont advocate it to be done every single week unless you are doing it really light.
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Well, you know who that might be, Monsta but I won't even get into a nonsense debate

What I will say is that when it comes to training people take exercises very PERSONALLY. Well, really, people take training too personally in general. So what can I say? You have the choice to listen to SUBJECTIVE opinion, or to educate yourself with objective information and make informed choices based on that and what HAPPENS.

Most people don't have a clue why injuries REALLY happen because of the misconception that most injuries are acute and sudden.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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^agree.


I don't like the behind the neck presses , but it is a personal choice. When I did do them (long time ago) I never took my elbows past parallel, I think it helped min the damage that could be done.
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