^^^sooooooo true

Amen.

The 8-10RM was the most painful meso IMO, and wait til the 4-6RM kicks your ass. Muahahaha

[2 x 15] Squats (A2G) 145 155 165
[2 x 15] Bench (flat) 100 105 115
[1 x 15] Shoulder Press 35 40 55*
[1 x 15] Pulldowns 75 88 100
[2 x 15] Rows (barbell) 70 75 80
[1 x 15] Barbell Curls 45 50 55
[2 x 15] Calves 180 180 190
[1 x 15] Shrugs 55 55 60

*Switched to militairy press because the shoulder presses were hurting like hell... not too sure what was wrong but the militairy press is feeling good so i'm planning to stick with it

I'm on week two of my 15 rep mesocycle. Everything seems to be going well. I think i am going ot have to up my squats and bench at a slightly faster pace so I hit my maxes this Thursday

Diet: Not great, had a few days where I only took in less than 2000 calories, but other than that i've been eating constantly. Have been taking creatine but it has been messing with my stomach a little. Don't really know if it is the creatine or the dextrose or the combination of the two.

I'm really looking forward to the 10 rm meso just because thats how i've always worked out... Also, I feel slightly odd doing 15 rep sets, but at least I know what i'm doing it for...

Your stomach will get used to the creatine and dextrose. Make sure you take it with plenty of liguid.

workout 5 of the 15 rep mesocycle

[2 x 15] Squats (A2G) 185
[2 x 15] Bench (flat) 115
[1 x 15] Military Press (seated) 55
[1 x 15] Pulldowns 100 (machine only goes up by about 20 lbs per plate)
[2 x 15] Rows (barbell) 85
[1 x 15] Barbell Curls 60
[2 x 15] Calves 200
[1 x 15] Shrugs 65

1 more workout before the 10 rep mesocycle. feels like I will be hitting my maxes on schedule, some above my old record but I guess that's the point.

The 10rm meso workout will add hamstring curls to the current workout. Anyone have feelings on adding deadlifts the the 10rm or the 5rm meso as well? any reason why or why not to? Any advice helps

[2 x 10] Squats
[2 x 10] Hamstring Curls
[2 x 10] Bench
[2 x 10] Military Press
[2 x 10] Pulldowns
[2 x 10] Rows
[2 x 10] Barbell Curls
[3 x 10] Calves (Just my preference to keep volume high for calves)
[2 x 10] Dumbbell shrugs

That is the tentative 10rm meso workout for reference just wondering where to I could add deadlifts if possible

It'd be too much unless you weren't squatting. What you could do is some Romanian deadlifts or pullthroughs INSTEAD of the leg curls. I think leg curls suck anyway :) . This would be good training for your hams, glutes, and spinal erectors and help get you ready for some deadlifting later on. If you want maximum work for the hams do the pullthroughs.

sounds good, i'll probably switch pullthroughs with the hamstring curls... thanks for the input

You're welcome. If you haven't done them before don't get carried away with the weight. I wouldn't even try to find your maxes just start off with a fairly light weight and build on it. You can always add weight faster later on as your body gets used to the movement. For the hams/ glute you want to bend your legs more on the way down and you never need to fully lock them out.