I agree. I wonder if he did that again in exactly the same way if his entire body would hemorrhage.

I like the bluntness in this thread.

For the record:

I agree.

:D

I guess it's your way to protect yourself from a reality you don't want to see. You have your own ideas about training and you'll defend them because you cannot accept the fact that you could be wrong which would imply that since X years you have wasted your time and effort : too much volume, too many exercises, high reps / light weight endurance training, and too high effort leading to overtraining. It's up to you to blindly stay and defend your reality or have the courage to imagine that what you are doing is wrong. There is nothing more I can do for you.

Why a rounded back Deadlift ? Because I wrongly thought that if I could use an heavier load it implied that the muscles of the BACK and/or Legs were working Harder. It was a mistake because if the Back is Rounded it means that the muscles cannot maintain an extension of the back despite maximum force output and thus they are fatigued / overtrained. Plus... there is the risk for the spine. So like all of you I have been a victim of the belief that "more is better" (I thought more load, heavier load would be better and didn't even care about the risk).

Workout number 3 : (since the adjustment of the loads)

Deadlift : 130, 145
Curl Left Arm : 24, 27
Curl Right Arm : 22, 25
Floor Press Right Arm : 36, 41
Floor Press Left Arm : 36, 41

BTW I knew this video but it was funny to look at it again ! My form was not as bad as that but my back was rounded.

Thats the Scariest thing I've seen in a while! :crazy:

There is also such a thing as too little volume and too little exercises, and too low effort that leads to undertraining which = Zero progress.

You suck.

Jonson yes but that's not my case. I'm making progress in the DL, Press and Curl. I'm able to increase the weight progressively but I have to be patient. At the end of the year I'll be much stronger IF I don't try to increase the load too fast which would overtrain me.

Wolf I hope for you that you can make progress despite your (over)training.

Great progress, from an easy 179.5 with a rounded back to 145 with a strait back :wtf:

Yes when I did 179.5kg it felt easy. It means that I could have lifted probably around 185kg. With a straight back my 1RM is around 155kg and thus 30kg lighter. MAYBE I'll be able to lift much heavier after 2-3 weeks of adaptation to the new style. BUT when you round your back the distance is shorter and the hips/tighs aren't in the same position. For ME it was much easier to lift with a rounded back BUT like I said I may be able to lift much heavier with a good technique in a few weeks. We will see...

179.5kg on the DL is my absolute best performance it was a Personal Record and thus I make progress. If you look at the strongest Pullers they very often round their back for a maximum performance. You know BOB PEOPLES ? Here's what he said about DL :

Yes you are stronger (maybe not 30kg stronger) but the muscles of the back are easily overtrained and the risk ofinjury increase despite what says Bob Peoples.

If you read about strength training for about five minutes you'd know that you can perform high intensity training for extended periods of time by manipulating volume to dissipate fatigue.

Not only this but you would also know that 1 rep is NOT enough to create a training effect, even if you're a beginner.

You're so fixated on fatigue and overtraining that you're dwarfing your training to the point where it becomes pointless and of no use. Fatigue is a side effect of your training stressor, it is not the main goal and it is not something you get directly. You don't exercise to fatigue muscles, you exercise and the stressor causes fatigue, you train for the stressor.

Increases in fitness or ability come from chronic exposure because your body adapts to the environment its put in, not because you lifted a heavy barbell one time.

Do you really know how hard it is to overtrain? Because it is not easy. You can overeach for quite some time before you become overtrained. What you thought was overtraining could have been overreaching.

And seriously, how can you say with a straight face that a single rep bicep curl is a measure of strength. Floor press, deadlift and bicep curl are your measures of strength. That is not even close to being a balanced program.

Like Ross said, I hope nobody is taking ths seriously because this is NOT the way to do strength training.

I'll leave you with this. Today I did 8 singles on deadlifts, all well above 90% and probably higher than 95%, next week I will do 6, the week after 10 and the week after that 2 singles. In one month I have performed some very intense lifting, disipatted fatigue by managing volume and that amount of volume (during one month for me) would take you 26 sessions.

26 sessions @ 3-4 sessions per week is about 6-8 weeks. I repeat my cycle for a full year (which I have done) and that is equivalent to 312 of your 1 rep sessions. 3-4 sessions per week is 78-104 weeks which is 1.5-2 years.

We could keep going but my point is that it takes you 1.5-2 times longer to get the same volume.