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_Wolf_ · #1 07-24-2009, 07:20 AM

Or he could take his head out of his ass. There's always that option

Pitysister · #2 07-24-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by _Wolf_

Or he could take his head out of his ass. There's always that option

not an option when it's in that far.....

Kinryoku · #3 07-24-2009, 02:16 PM

Workout n°21

Deadlift : 151.25
Curl L/R : 25/24.5
Floor L/R : 41

Good workout

You say it's shit because you don't understand WHY it WORKS. It's very simple : bigger muscles = higher force. Train for Force (not volume, damages, effort, inroad or anything esle) and you'll make the best gains. Force is not just the load it's also acceleration it's why it's not requried not even desirable to use more than 90%. Fatigue is built very fast when you train extremly heavy.

If I was (totally) wrong there is no way I could DL 180kg or do a Floor Press with 45kg dumbells. I'm sorry but you guys are the "idiots" who don't do any research, don't do any tests, don't think about training, just follow a standard routine which can be found on internet : westside guru, pavel, HIT, HST, etc. All those methods are wrong (don't train for FORCE) and will ony work for a short time until you overtrain or you'll have to cycle your training and thus have phases of LOW stimulation. If you want SIZE then it's a little bit different because you need to deplete glycogen... I'll tell you more about that in a next post.

Jonson · #4 07-24-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kinryoku

Workout n°21

Deadlift : 151.25
Curl L/R : 25/24.5
Floor L/R : 41

Good workout

You say it's shit because you don't understand WHY it WORKS. It's very simple : bigger muscles = higher force. Train for Force (not volume, damages, effort, inroad or anything esle) and you'll make the best gains. Force is not just the load it's also acceleration it's why it's not requried not even desirable to use more than 90%. Fatigue is built very fast when you train extremly heavy.

If I was (totally) wrong there is no way I could DL 180kg or do a Floor Press with 45kg dumbells. I'm sorry but you guys are the "idiots" who don't do any research, don't do any tests, don't think about training, just follow a standard routine which can be found on internet : westside guru, pavel, HIT, HST, etc. All those methods are wrong (don't train for FORCE) and will ony work for a short time until you overtrain or you'll have to cycle your training and thus have phases of LOW stimulation. If you want SIZE then it's a little bit different because you need to deplete glycogen... I'll tell you more about that in a next post.

Standard routine's work, that is why lots of people follow them, you should maybe give one a go sometime,
Who knows an idiot's standard routine that everyone follow's may give you a proper 180 Deadlift one where you dont have to round your back and risk injury to get it up.

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