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iron_worker 04-02-2009 06:53 AM

I have tried box squats but I think I will go back to them. They should help with getting the feeling of what the correct depth is.

I also think that my legs were getting so sore because I was bouncing at the bottom of my squat. I mean my legs are still sore today from the volume work but not like they were getting before.

IW

iron_worker 04-05-2009 01:20 PM

Saturday April 4th/2009

Flat BB Bench
bar x 12
135lb 2x6
165lb x 10
175lb x 10
185lb x 10

I surprised myself and made a pretty good increase from last time. I haven't benched in a month.


HS Lat Pull Down
1 45 plate each side
3x15

There is still some pain when reaching straight over my head so I used this as more of a stretching exercise.

Incline DB Press
35lb x 10
45lb x 10
55lb x 9,8
45lb x 10

I can do the press part fine but when I squeeze together I get pain... so I just left that part of the motion out.

Standing EZ Curl Bar
40lb x 10
60lb x 10
70lb x 8
50lb x 13

Assuming the bar is 20lb those are the figures.

Thoughts

Shoulder still has some issues but generally improving.

IW

iron_worker 04-10-2009 01:39 PM

Well if you haven't noticed, I haven't been around for the last. I've been laboring as a farm hand. Its in the middle of nowhere with no real way to get to the gym but its very physical work so I'm not totally doing nothing. I'll be there for another week and then I'm moving to start a new job somewhere else. I guess I'll get back on the weights bandwagon in a week after this unplanned deload of sorts.

IW

Ross86 04-10-2009 08:17 PM

Good luck with everything. Keep us posted.

TALO 04-11-2009 12:54 PM

Farming is tough work. Some of the strongest people I've seen are farmers.... Enjoy and remember to eat as much as you can !!

Pitysister 04-11-2009 04:13 PM

a new job as in.....you for sure have another job? if so...congrats :)

good luck with the farming...up early and to bed late i bet :)

iron_worker 04-12-2009 06:53 PM

Ya its tough work but its fairly satisfying. I haven't done any hard labor for quite a while. And yes, I got an offer for a permanent engineering position. Unfortunately, I have to move away but its to my hometown and its only 2.5hrs from here so I can visit on the weekend if I want.

Oh ya, I've been eating as much as I can. I only eat 3 meals a day but I make sure to really get my fill. ha

IW

iron_worker 04-24-2009 07:14 PM

Well I've officially been out of the gym for 3 weeks but I'll be starting a permanent position come monday. I will have gym access there so I'm pumped to get back at er.

iW

iron_worker 04-28-2009 08:13 PM

Tuesday April 28th

Well I have been having a hell of a time getting to the gym this week. I wanted to go the last couple of days but I'm allergic to this cat (just moved) and its causing my asthma to act up... which hasn't been a problem for years. I haven't been sleeping well and such but today I busted out the weights I had from highschool just to get moving again. I only had like 135lb or so and no rack or anything.

Clean into Front Squat
135lb 5x5

Clean & Jerk
135lb 3x1

Pistol Squats
bw x 1,2,2,1

Did these onto a stack of books to see how deep I could get.

Floor Press
1x5

These are super hard to do with no rack!

Thoughts
My mom bought me a 3 month gym pass to the "Training Zone" here for my bday but it doesn't start until May 1st. I may still try to drop in before and pay the drop in fee if I have to.

IW

iron_worker 04-29-2009 06:40 PM

Wednesday April 29th/2009


Deadlifts
bodyweight squats 2x5
squats with bar x 5
135lb x 5
185lb x 5
225lb x 3
255lb x 3
285lb x 3
315lb x 3
325lb x 3
335lb x 3

Well I didn't have a real olympic pad, just a little 3/4" rubber mat so I had to be much more gentle on the decents. I tried a belt out today for the first time... worked pretty slick.

Push Press
bar x 5
95lb x 5
115lb x 5
135lb x 3
155lb x 2
175lb x 1

I probably could have gone a little higher or a little more reps with this but I felt I had no safety and didn't want to have to ditch it onto the floor from head height. lol

Strict M.Press
135lb x 7, 4

Really happy about the 7 reps. I think thats the best I've done for reps and it was after the push press! I think the push press got me fired up just right.

Pull Ups - 5:00 mins
bw x 5,4,3,3,2,2
Total - 19

This density training is tough! Kinda weak but its somewhere to start.

BB Curls
55lb x 12
65lb x 10
75lb x 7
65lb x 9
55lb x 10

Hanging Leg Raises with Slow Decent
bw 2x5

I don't think there is a bar high enough to do proper leg raises at this gym so I had to improvise. It was tough anyways. I was burnt by this point so I called it quits.

Thoughts

Felt great to get back into the gym and do something active again. I've lost strength in some places I think but it should come back quickly I think.

I'm at a bit of a cross roads, however... Summer is coming up and I'm feeling like I should be leaning out. I'm at ~16% and ~190lb. I'll be doing lots of lake time and camping and whatnot this summer so I kinda want to look good... but on the other hand I just want to say F that and eat like horse and get bigger/stronger all summer...fall...winter...etc. So I dunno, I could lean out for 4-6 weeks then maintain for summer then bulk. OR I could just go ahead and bulk up and try not to go much about 16% or whatever I'm at now. I'm all ears for anyone who wants to throw in any facts or pure oppinion.

On that note, I also need to get back on a good program. I'll be hitting the gym 3days (likely MWF) and after I lean out (or not) I want to hit something that will have good strength gains as well as size... something like maybe Wolfie is doing. I dunno yet. I'm also thinking of maybe hitting the gym 2 days a week and setting up a bit of a strong man course in my backyard here now that i have room...

So many thoughts! Sorry for the huge thread but I've been gone so long and thinking so much about the gym I just had to get it out. I look forward to any of your oppinions.

IW

TALO 05-02-2009 05:59 PM

4-6 weeks isn't much time to lean up. You can do it but you might lose more muscle than you want to. If I was you I would eat as much as i could , when i could and increase my training volume. This way you'll burn off more fat while putting on size. You will want to do CARDIO.

As for your training , why not do a 3 day WSB or try out the 5/3/1..... I'm sure you have a better idea on what you want to do.

Good luck !

iron_worker 05-04-2009 06:28 PM

Monday May 4th/2009

Weight: 194.5lb according to the scale at the gym with sweats on...190lb according to the scale at home with just briefs on... so somewhere in there I imagine.

Bench Press
bar x 8
135lb x 7
165lb x 6
185lb 5x5
185lb x 10

DB Standing Shoulder Press
30lb x 8
35lb x 8
40lb x 8
45lb x 5

Chest Supported Row
1*45 x 10
2*45s x 8
2*45s + 1*25 x 8
2*45s + 1*35 x 8

Cable Tricep Push Down
40lb,50lb,60lb,70lb x 10

Thoughts

Well I think I'm going to start a 5x5 again. I have decided that I'm going to try and put on some good mass this summer.... (and beyond). I need something with steady progressions again. I haven't hammered out the exact format yet but I'm workin on that.

IW

iron_worker 05-04-2009 08:13 PM

Well here is my first iteration through my workout program. I'm open to any suggestions. The cycle length will be based on the progression through the 5x5 and the need for a deload so likely...6wks or so.

Cycle 1

Monday
BB Bench 5x5
DB Shoulder Press 3-4x8-10
Upper Back 3-4x8-10
tricep access. 3-4x8-10

Wednesday
Box Squat 5x5
Rack Pulls 3-4x6-8
Step ups 3-4x8-10
Leg Raises 3-4x8-10

Friday
Pistol Squats 4-5xAMAP
Cleans 6-8x2-3
Pull-Ups Density

Cycle 2

Monday
BB Military Press 5x5
DB Incline Press 3-4x8-10
Upper Back 3-4x8-10
tricep access. 3-4x8-10

Wednesday
Deadlift 5x5
Front Squat 3-4x6-8
Back Extensions 3-4x8-10
Bar Rollouts 3-4x8-10

Friday
OH Squats 5x5
Push Ups Density
Farmer's Walk 3xAMAP


I only have 3 exercises on friday but I'm willing to add another if need be. I was also thinking I could add in sled pulls tues/thurs as well.

IW

TALO 05-04-2009 09:46 PM

Do you know what your 5RM is ? you will want these numbers for some good starting percentages.

Kane 05-05-2009 03:25 AM

Have fun with the OH 5x5 :D

iron_worker 05-05-2009 03:13 PM

No I don't know my 5RMs but I could make a pretty good guess. Is there a good percentage to start at for 5x5? 80-85% of your 5RM?

IW

Pitysister 05-05-2009 04:27 PM

i like it....looks good.

iron_worker 05-05-2009 05:19 PM

I'm surprised you don't have any suggestions. lol But I'm glad too cause that must mean its pretty alright.

IW

Pitysister 05-05-2009 06:31 PM

well, cycle 2 could use a unilateral leg movement...but oh squats is in there...so all is forgiven :)

TALO 05-05-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iron_worker (Post 79465)
No I don't know my 5RMs but I could make a pretty good guess. Is there a good percentage to start at for 5x5? 80-85% of your 5RM?

IW

I would start lower , maybe around 60% . Try to figure it out so that by the time you reach week 5 your at your 5RM. You don't want to burn out to quick - Take it slow that that you crush your 5RM .

iron_worker 05-06-2009 03:29 PM

Well I'm thinking my bench 5RM is around 205lb. I was thinking of using 5lb increments which is why I started at 185lb.

Week 1 - 185lb 5x5
Week 2 - 190lb 5x5
...
Week 5 - 205lb 5x5

Or were you thinking more like 10lb jumps:

Week 1 - 165lb 5x5
Week 2 - 175lb 5x5
...
Week 5 - 205lb 5x5

Seems to me the 10lb jumps would ramp up too quick and not give any time to acclimate to the weight. I dunno, just my thoughts.

Here are my estimates for my other 5RMs:

Box Squat - 275lb 5RM
Free Squat - 245lb 5RM
Front Squat - 195lb 5RM
Deadlift - 325lb 5RM
OH Squat - No clue lol

IW

TALO 05-06-2009 04:37 PM

....double post

TALO 05-06-2009 04:37 PM

I think you'll be fine with the 5lb jumps.

i need to read Bill's program again , but i think he he always works with %'s . Might be 10% or 5% jumps that he does. Doesn't meen you have to do it that way.

iron_worker 05-06-2009 06:05 PM

Week 1 - Cycle 1 - Day 2 -Wednesday May 6th/2009

Parallel Box(Bench) Squats
bw squats 1x10
bar x 8
135lb 2x6
185lb x 5
225lb x 4
245lb x 3
255lb x 5
245lb 4x5
275lb x 3

I was going to start at 255lb but I thought it felt a little heavy for the first time at it so I backed it off. I think 245lb will be a good starting point. I also found it makes a huge difference if you actually sit onto the box vs just touch and go. (Touch and go = way easier... so I tried to do it the hard way... lol)

Rack Pulls from Knee
135lb x 8
225lb x 8
315lb x 6
335lb x 6
355lb x 6 (belt)

A tough bunch of pulls but very satisfying. I also practiced switching my grip under-over to over-under if you know what I mean.

Step-Ups
bw x 8
bw + 25lb x 8
bw + 35lb x 8
bw + 45lb x 8

I may have to use DBs next time so I can increase the weight. Or maybe I'll just increase the reps.

Hanging Leg Raises
bw 4x8

I found a bar that actually hangs my feet completely off the ground. Nice.

Thoughts

A good workout. Tiring but satisfying.

IW

HIThopper 05-06-2009 06:39 PM

Looks good Dub :)

Pitysister 05-07-2009 03:53 AM

looks solid.

Ross86 05-07-2009 03:58 AM

When we do box squats, we sit back on the box and relax (while maintaining a tight arch) and then start the concentric portion. Make sure you're sitting back.

iron_worker 05-07-2009 10:33 AM

Ok I will continue sitting onto the box then. I figured that way you are truly developing your max power out of the hole.

IW

iron_worker 05-07-2009 07:29 PM

Thursday May 7th/2009

GPP

~20mins of pulling a toboggan back and forth in my yard which is 150-200ft (yes its big).

I pulled sled + (estimated total weights in brackets) :

2 flower pots (50lb)

3 flower pots (then tipped over...wah dirt) (75lb)

3 flower pots, 1 tire (90lb)

3 flower pots, 1 tire, 1 truck tire + wheel (130lb)

I probably did a total of 10 trips back and forth with some rest in between. I tried forwards, backwards, and between the legs. I really need to work on my sled set up. The rope isn't quite long enough and dumping out pots of dirt is no fun.

My legs were very sore and feel much better now but we'll see tomorrow morning when gym time rolls around... real early.

IW

Pitysister 05-08-2009 03:58 PM

do you have any bags of dirt laying around :) or even water softener salt bags in a pinch :)

iron_worker 05-10-2009 05:08 PM

We may have some bags of dirt. I'll have to look.

Anyways, Friday AM work out didn't happen. I got up bright and early...stood up out of bed and... Ahhhhh my legs! So sore. Back to playing this game again.

IW

iron_worker 05-11-2009 05:18 PM

Monday May 11th/2009

Weight: 196.5lb according to the new scale at the gym.. I dunno? If thats true its a new bw PR. lol

Bench Press
bar x 8
135lb x 6,5
165lb x 3
190lb 5x5

Didn't have a spotter so I didn't go for the last burnout set.

DB Standing Shoulder Press
30lb x 8
35lb x 8
40lb x 8
45lb x 7

A couple more reps this time...

Chest Supported Row
1*45 x 10
2*45s x 8
2*45s + 1*35 x 8
3*45s x 8

Cable Tricep Push Down
50lb x 10
60lb x 10
70lb x 8
60lb x 9

Thoughts

Well I'm hoping my legs are ready to go for wednesday... I also think that I'm going to go ahead with my friday workout and just work in the upper stuff for a couple weeks and hopefully my legs will get used to this and then I can slowly work in the lower too.

IW

iron_worker 05-13-2009 06:33 PM

Wednesday May 13th/2009

Parallel Box Squats
bw squats 1x5
bar x 8
135lb 2x6
185lb x 5
225lb x 3
250lb 5x5

Nice and tight, good control and I was letting as much weight onto the bench as possible while still keeping good form. Overall, not too bad.

Rack Pulls from Knee
135lb x 8
225lb x 8
315lb x 8
365lb x 6 (belt)
405lb x 3 (belt)
335lb x 6

Some good gruntage on this exercise. lol

Step-Ups
bw + 30lb x 8
bw + 40lb x 8
bw + 50lb x 8

Hanging Leg Raises
bw 4x8

I might try 4x9 next time... we'll see.


Thoughts

Hopefully I won't be so god damn sore this time.

IW

HIThopper 05-13-2009 06:48 PM

Looks good to me Dub, nice rack pulls

iron_worker 05-14-2009 10:27 AM

Thanks!

iron_worker 05-19-2009 06:25 PM

Tuesday May 19th/2009

Weight: 196.2lb

Bench Press
bar x 8
135lb x 6,5
165lb x 3
195lb 4x5, 1x3

Dissapointed but not all that surprised after a weekend like I had.

Chest Supported Row
1*45 x 10
2*45s x 8
3*45s 3x8

DB Standing Shoulder Press
30lb x 8
35lb x 8
40lb x 8
45lb x 6

Cable Tricep Push Down
40lb x 10
50lb x 10
60lb x 10
70lb x 8
60lb x 9

Hammer Grip Chins
BW 5x2

Holy crap these sucked big time. I used to be good at these. I guess I'm getting heavy.

Thoughts

My gym performance has an inverse correlation to my drinking performance... imagine that.

IW

TALO 05-20-2009 06:34 PM

Summer can be rough on a guy.

Kane 05-20-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iron_worker (Post 79771)
My gym performance has an inverse correlation to my drinking performance... imagine that.

LOL, yep.

iron_worker 05-27-2009 05:05 PM

Well between laying tile at my mom's place to getting sick to being away every weekend... well I've really shit the bed at the gym. And thus I have put on a great deal of weight (the bad kind)... gah. I think I must set myself up on a real diet here... not whatever the hell it is that my mother makes.

P.S. living at home with your mother when you're an adult sucks. If I wasn't so hard up for a job I would be outta hur! In fact, I'm looking into other jobs currently.

IW

HIThopper 05-27-2009 06:37 PM

Living at home is the greatest you fool!!!

No bills, cheap and easy livin!!!


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