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kie Simpson 03-13-2012 04:55 AM

can you please help me out with somthin
i understand the principle of progressive orverload but should i add weight EVERY time Or just when i can complete the sets and reps with good form ? because i have been adding weight every workout but i cant always finish the sets/reps and my form starts to fail

iron_worker 03-13-2012 06:37 PM

You don't *have* to add weight every time. Since you are doing an A B A B style workout 4x a week I would say should add 5lb once a week. Adding 5lb 2x a week will get to be far too much really quickly.

If your form is breaking down to the point where you are risking injury then do not add weight. It's always more important to keep your muscles and joints healthy rather than getting that next 5lb.

IW

iron_worker 03-13-2012 06:40 PM

Tuesday March 13th, 2012

BW: 216.8lb

Deadlifts
mobility
80kg x 5
100kg x 5
125kg x 3

155kg x 5
175kg x 3
195kg x 1(+4)

Deadlifts
110kg - 5x10

Superset with...

Hanging Leg Raises
bw 5x12,12,12,11,10

Thoughts

A PR weight for deads and I did it for 5 reps. Nice! (429lb!) 200kg coming up next cycle.

IW

iron_worker 03-15-2012 06:19 PM

Thursday March 8th, 2012

BW: 218.2lb

Military Press
bar x 8
75lb x 5
950lb x 5
120lb x 3

150lb x 5
170lb x 3
190lb x 1(+2)

95lb,100lb,105lb,110lb,115lb - 5x10


Hammer Grip Cable Row
100lb,120lb,127.5lb,140lb,147.5lb - 5x10

Thoughts

I hit 5 more pounds for the same reps as last cycle. Can't complain about that! It felt easier too.... Nice.

Weight gain continues....

IW

iron_worker 03-16-2012 06:23 PM

Friday March 16th, 2012

BW: 216.6lb

Squats
bar x 8
135lb x 5
175lb x 5
205lb x 3

255lb x 5
290lb x 3
325lb x 1(+3)


Squats
155lb - 5x10

...superset with...

BB Bicep Curls
75lb - 5x10

Thoughts

Pretty stoked about this lift. A PR weight for 4 reps. Nice!

IW

iron_worker 03-19-2012 11:35 AM

Monday March 19th, 2012

Grip Work

Trainer - 3x10
CoC #1 - 3x5
CoC #1.5 - RH - 3x10 LH -3x7,6,5


Thoughts

Well I have been doing some major slacking off on grip work lately ... oops. Did an easy workout to try and break myself back in.

IW

iron_worker 03-20-2012 05:41 PM

Wednesday March 20th, 2012

Deload Week

BW: 218.0lb

Bench Press
bar x 8
115lb x 5
135lb x 5
175lb x 5
215lb x 5


Deadlifts
75kg x 5
100kg x 5
120kg x 5
150kg x 5


Pull Ups
bw - 2x5


Thoughts

Glad it's deload. My body needed it after that last cycle.

IW

iron_worker 03-22-2012 05:37 PM

Thursday March 22nd, 2012

Deload Week

BW: 218.0lb

Military Press
bar x 8
75lb x 5
95lb x 5
115lb x 5
145lb x 5


Squats
mobility
bar x 8
135lb x 5
165lb x 5
205lb x 5
255lb x 5


Hammer Grip Cable Row
85lb x 10
140lb - 3x10

Thoughts

Deload week was much needed. Hopefully I'm well rested for monday cause I feel weak right now!

IW

iron_worker 03-26-2012 01:10 PM

Monday March 26th, 2012

Grip Work

Trainer - 3x10
CoC #1 - 3x5
CoC #1.5 - 2x3
CoC #2 - RH: 8,5 LH:2,1
CoC #1.5 - RH:10 LH:7


Thoughts

I have been thinking about trying a monday "heavy" - thursday "light" style grip workout to see if I can get this thing moving again.

Stalllllleeeedddd.

IW

iron_worker 03-26-2012 06:10 PM

Monday March 26th, 2012

BW: 218.4lb

Bench Press
bar x 8
115lb x 5
135lb x 5
165lb x 5

180lb x 5
205lb x 5
230lb x 5(+4)

160lb - 5x10


Pull-Ups
bw x 8,5,5,4,3


Thoughts

Last cycle I did 230lb x 8 ... was not expecting to hit 9. It was ugly and my butt came off the bench for the last one but I made 'er.

IW

iron_worker 03-27-2012 06:00 PM

Tuesday March 27th, 2012

BW: 218.2lb

Deadlifts
mobility
85kg x 5
105kg x 5
125kg x 3

140kg x 5
160kg x 5
180kg x 5(+4)

Deadlifts
225lb - 3x10, 1x20(dear god!)

Superset with...

Hanging Leg Raises
bw 3x12

Thoughts

I could have gone for another rep on deads for a record but I my form was really solid up til that point so I left it. My back thanks me!

For some reason I decided to finish off my 5x10 with a set of 20... zomg!

IW

iron_worker 03-29-2012 06:32 PM

Thursday March 29th, 2012

BW: 216.8lb

Military Press
bar x 8
85lb x 5
105lb x 5
125lb x 3

135lb x 5
155lb x 5
175lb x 5(+2)

105lb - 3x10
115lb - 2x10


Hammer Grip Cable Row
140lb - 4x10
140lb - 1x12

Thoughts

A solid lift for military press. Really happy with that.

I went to the doc and he says I have high cholesterol ... seemed odd cause I thought I eat fairly healthy and my macros are in check. Get doing some research and turns out the 4 eggs I'm eating in the morning are over double the recommended daily intake of cholesterol! Not to mention the rest of the food I eat!

So I'm going to be cleaning up my diet big time (in terms of cholesterol and trans fats and such).

Just a note to everyone that just because your macros are in check doesn't mean your micro nutrients are!

IW

iron_worker 03-30-2012 04:59 PM

Friday March 30th, 2012

BW: 216.2lb

Squats
bar x 8
135lb x 5
175lb x 5
205lb x 3

230lb x 5
265lb x 5
300lb x 5(+2)


Thoughts

Had places to be so it was a short and sweet workout. Turned out pretty solid.

I have been shying away from the food a bit lately since I heard my cholesterol was high and it's showing in my body weight. Down a couple lb.

IW

iron_worker 04-02-2012 01:00 PM

Monday April 2nd, 2012

Grip Work

Trainer - 3x10
CoC #1 - 2x5
CoC #1.5 - 1x3
CoC #2 - RH: 9,5 LH:3,2
CoC #1.5 - RH:11 LH:7


Thoughts

A slight improvement over last week. I think I am going to try and take the "less is more" approach and drop thursday workouts since my DL workout on tuesday hammers my grip pretty good as well.

I also dropped some of the work sets today. I may drop the top gripper to just one max set next time as well.

IW

iron_worker 04-02-2012 06:21 PM

Monday April 2nd, 2012

BW: 217.2lb

Bench Press
bar x 8
115lb x 5
135lb x 5
165lb x 5

195lb x 3
220lb x 3
245lb x 3(+1)

160lb - 5x10


Pull-Ups
bw x 6,5,4,4,3


Thoughts

New low cholesterol diet in place and I think it's wreaking havoc on my strength. I had a very lack luster day. I hope sh!t evens out quick.

IW

iron_worker 04-03-2012 06:14 PM

Tuesday April 3rd, 2012

BW: 217.0lb

Deadlifts
mobility
85kg x 5
105kg x 5
125kg x 3

150kg x 3
170kg x 3
190kg x 3(+3)

Deadlifts
90kg - 3x10

Superset with...

Hanging Leg Raises
bw 3x12

Thoughts

Well the gym is closed for good Friday so we're squatting a day early. I held back a bit on my rep max and cut my 5x10 down to 3x10 to try to save my back for squats. I'm reasonably happy with how the weight felt anyway.

IW

iron_worker 04-05-2012 06:37 PM

Friday April 5th, 2012

BW: 216.8lb

Military Press
bar x 10
85lb x 5
105lb x 5
125lb x 5

145lb x 5
165lb x 3
185lb x 4


Squats
bar x 8
135lb x 5
175lb x 5
210lb x 3

245lb x 3
280lb x 3
315lb x 3(+3)


Thoughts

Well my shoulder was tweaked from bench and I didn't think MP was going to go very well but I still managed +1 rep from the last time I hit 185lb. Hopefully my shoulder heals up for monday so I can hit something respectable then.

Squats went great. +1 rep from last time I did 315lb. Nice.

IW

iron_worker 04-09-2012 06:21 PM

Monday April 9th, 2012

BW: 216.8lb

Bench Press
bar x 8
115lb x 5
135lb x 5
165lb x 5

205lb x 5
230lb x 3
260lb x 1(+1)

155lb - 5x10


Pull-Ups
bw x 10,7,5,5,4


Thoughts

I'm reasonably happy with my bench today. 3 reps would have been really good in my mind. 2 reps I am ok with. I am not sure but this weight is either matching my old PR or beating it by 5lb so that's never a bad thing. It's been a loooonnngggg time since I hit these kinds of weights on bench.

IW

iron_worker 04-10-2012 06:15 PM

Tuesday April 10th, 2012

BW: 217.4lb

Deadlifts
mobility
90kg x 5
105kg x 5
130kg x 3

160kg x 5
180kg x 3
200kg x 1(+3)

Deadlifts
100kg - 3x10,1x20

Superset with...

Hanging Leg Raises
bw 3x12

Thoughts

200kg is a nice landmark for me. 440lb.... for reps. Feels good. Though when I hit the first rep I was worried because it was moving slllloowwww.

That last 20rep set completely gassed me and gave me a headache. Oh well. A really good day all in all.

IW

iron_worker 04-12-2012 06:31 PM

Thursday April 12th, 2012

BW: 219.8lb

Military Press
bar x 8
85lb x 5
105lb x 5
125lb x 3

155lb x 5
175lb x 3
195lb x 1(+1)

95lb - 2x10
105lb - 2x10
115lb - 1x10


Hammer Grip Cable Row
85lb x 10
160lb - 5x10

Thoughts

Not sure on the big spike in my weight today? I cheated a bit last night on my night off so I guess that could be it. Hopefully it levels out a bit.

I'm pretty happy with my performance on these today. I went for 3 but there was just no way it was going up. I'm ok with 2.

IW

iron_worker 04-13-2012 05:46 PM

Friday April 13th, 2012

BW: 216.6lb

Squats
bar x 8
135lb x 5
175lb x 5
215lb x 3

265lb x 5
300lb x 3
335lb x 1(+3)


Squats
135lb,185lb - 2x10

...superset with...

BB Bicep Curls
65lb - 3x10

Thoughts

Awesome squat day. Big PR for me. I was hoping for 3 reps because that would sort of go along with my recent trend of squatting but I grrrriiiinnnnnddddeeedddd out a 4th.

I was going to hit the 5x10 harder but my back started to spasm so I called it quits.

IW

iron_worker 04-16-2012 02:21 PM

Monday April 16th, 2012

Grip Work

Trainer - 3x10
CoC #1 - 2x5
CoC #1.5 - 1x3
Coc #2 - RH:10 LH: 3 attempts
Coc #1.5 - RH:10 LH: 7


Thoughts

Had a great day ... but only for my right hand. I dunno what happened with my left but it just felt awkward and I couldn't quite close it. Strange. Maybe I need a little bit more warm up. I kind of tried a keep it simple method today and reduced my warm up sets/reps.

IW

iron_worker 04-16-2012 07:56 PM

Monday April 16th, 2012

Conditioning


Rowing - Intervals
3 minute warm up
6 cycles of 30second sprint/1min slow
3 minute cool down


Thoughts

Well I decided it's been too long since I've done any cardio... I also decided that the best way to go about doing cardio for a guy concerned with maintaining as much muscle mass as possible is to do interval training and one that trains the largest muscle groups possible to simulate weight training more closely ... aka rowing.

I bought myself a cheap rowing machine from sears that seems to do the trick. It's just a fan style machine so it's a bit loud when I get it all wound up but just have to crank the music a bit louder. ha

I could have just used the rowers at the gym but I never feel like doing cardio right after weights and I didn't want to make more trips to the gym than I already do so I'd feel like I live there ... so this seemed like a good compromise.

I also did a session on Sunday that I forgot to record that was the same as this.

My plan is to row on Wednesday and at least 1 (or both) of the weekend days.

Hopefully it was a worthy investment. So far I'm pleased with it.

IW

kie Simpson 04-17-2012 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iron_worker (Post 92709)
Monday April 16th, 2012

Conditioning


Rowing - Intervals
3 minute warm up
6 cycles of 30second sprint/1min slow
3 minute cool down


Thoughts

Well I decided it's been too long since I've done any cardio... I also decided that the best way to go about doing cardio for a guy concerned with maintaining as much muscle mass as possible is to do interval training and one that trains the largest muscle groups possible to simulate weight training more closely ... aka rowing.

I bought myself a cheap rowing machine from sears that seems to do the trick. It's just a fan style machine so it's a bit loud when I get it all wound up but just have to crank the music a bit louder. ha

I could have just used the rowers at the gym but I never feel like doing cardio right after weights and I didn't want to make more trips to the gym than I already do so I'd feel like I live there ... so this seemed like a good compromise.

I also did a session on Sunday that I forgot to record that was the same as this.

My plan is to row on Wednesday and at least 1 (or both) of the weekend days.

Hopefully it was a worthy investment. So far I'm pleased with it.

IW

i dont like to interfere with your journal but its the only way i get your attention, okay so after a few month training iv decided the powertec workbench isnt working or its just not my best option,i have deffinatly built a considerate amount mucle but i feel not to my full potential, the whole leverage movement feels unatural, so iv sold that and purchased a powertec power rack which provides all free weight exercises for me, not put it to test yet but i was thinking of doing the workout A workout B ruitein like this > WORKOUT A Squats 2x5 low 3x5 moderate 5x5 max
bench press 2x5 low 3x5 moderate 5x5 max
incline DB bench press 2x5 low 3x5 moderate 5x5 max
barbell rows 2x5 low 3x5 moderate 5x5 max
pull ups AMAP
WORKOUT B Squats 2x5 low 3x5 moderate 5x5 max
overhead press 2x5 low 3x5 moderate 5x5 max
deadlift 1x5
dumbell lateral raise 2x5 low 3x5 moderate 5x5 max
what do you think ?
im not sure the sets are to praportion could you advise please :) thanks

iron_worker 04-17-2012 05:55 PM

Not sure what you're getting at with your "low/moderate/max"? Are you really going to do 10 sets?

Are you talking about warmup and acclimation sets as well?

Free weights is definitely the way to go by the way. I assumed you were using free weights already actually ....

IW

iron_worker 04-17-2012 05:57 PM

Tuesday April 17th, 2012

Deload Week

BW: 219.2lb

Bench Press
bar x 8
115lb x 5
135lb x 5
165lb x 5
215lb x 5


Deadlifts
90kg x 5
110kg x 5
130kg x 5
150kg x 5


Pull Ups
bw - 2x8,5


Thoughts

My weight is crazy right now. Not too sure what's going on.

IW

kie Simpson 04-18-2012 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iron_worker (Post 92722)
Wednesday April 17th, 2012

Deload Week

BW: 219.2lb

Bench Press
bar x 8
115lb x 5
135lb x 5
165lb x 5
215lb x 5


Deadlifts
90kg x 5
110kg x 5
130kg x 5
150kg x 5


Pull Ups
bw - 2x8,5


Thoughts

My weight is crazy right now. Not too sure what's going on.

IW

yeah i dont quite understand what to do, i feel realy dumb sayin this but i thaught building up to my max weight was the "warm up",
i havnt tried anythin yet what do you think i should do with my sets and how should i warm up,
im putting alot of effort in and would like to no that i am training correctly so please feel free to alter the ruteine to perfection
iv read so many different ways of training im confusing my self,

iron_worker 04-18-2012 09:40 AM

For my bench I know my max is right around 275lb. So lets use that as an example.

My 5 rep max is right around 240lb currently (~87% of my max)
Obivously I wouldn't be able to a 5x5 of 240lb or even a 3x5 so I would have to use that figure to get my starting point of a 3x5 or 5x5. I would guess that good starting point for me would be like 205lb (~75% of my max) for a 5x5 and maybe 215lb (almost 80% of my max) for a 3x5... you have to have room to add weight after you start.

For warmups I would do something like:

Use the bar to stretch out for maybe 10 reps then...

115lb x 5 (~40% of my max)
135lb x 5 (~50% of my max)
165lb x 3 (~60% of my max)

Then I might hit 1 acclimation set

185lb x 1 or 2 (~67% of my max) (I might change this to 195lb x 1 (70%) if I were doing a 3x5 ...but it doesn't matter *that* much.

Then start into your 3x5 or 5x5.

The whole idea is to get the blood flowing in your muscles, get them acclimated to the weight, and get your mind into the "zone" of lifting *without* burning out your muscles. The warm up should not be difficult and the acclimation sets should go up smoothly as well.

So if you know what your max for any lift is (or at least close) you can follow a similar system to determine roughly how to warm up/acclimate.

IW

kie Simpson 04-18-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iron_worker (Post 92729)
For my bench I know my max is right around 275lb. So lets use that as an example.

My 5 rep max is right around 240lb currently (~87% of my max)
Obivously I wouldn't be able to a 5x5 of 240lb or even a 3x5 so I would have to use that figure to get my starting point of a 3x5 or 5x5. I would guess that good starting point for me would be like 205lb (~75% of my max) for a 5x5 and maybe 215lb (almost 80% of my max) for a 3x5... you have to have room to add weight after you start.

For warmups I would do something like:

Use the bar to stretch out for maybe 10 reps then...

115lb x 5 (~40% of my max)
135lb x 5 (~50% of my max)
165lb x 3 (~60% of my max)

Then I might hit 1 acclimation set

185lb x 1 or 2 (~67% of my max) (I might change this to 195lb x 1 (70%) if I were doing a 3x5 ...but it doesn't matter *that* much.

Then start into your 3x5 or 5x5.

The whole idea is to get the blood flowing in your muscles, get them acclimated to the weight, and get your mind into the "zone" of lifting *without* burning out your muscles. The warm up should not be difficult and the acclimation sets should go up smoothly as well.

So if you know what your max for any lift is (or at least close) you can follow a similar system to determine roughly how to warm up/acclimate.

IW

yeah man sweet that's actually pretty simple and makes sense so thanks for that

iron_worker 04-18-2012 06:39 PM

No problem. Let me know how it goes.

IW

iron_worker 04-18-2012 06:40 PM

Wednesday April 18th, 2012

Conditioning


Rowing - Intervals
3 minute warm up
7 cycles of 30second sprint/1min slow
3 minute cool down


Thoughts

Managed to bump it up by 1 interval. My glutes tell me when it's time to quit. They start accchhhiiinnnnggggg.

IW

iron_worker 04-19-2012 05:37 PM

Thursday April 19th, 2012

Deload Week

BW: 216.0lb

Military Press
bar x 8
85lb x 5
115lb x 5
135lb x 5
165lb x 3


Squats
mobility
bar x 8
135lb x 5
175lb x 5
205lb x 5
275lb x 3


Hammer Grip Cable Row
85lb x 10
160lb - 2x10

Thoughts

My weight is bouncing between 216 and 219 and I don't know why.

IW

iron_worker 04-23-2012 07:41 AM

Sunday April 23rd, 2012

Conditioning


Rowing - Steady State
20min


Thoughts

Well I had a really busy weekend and just didn't have the mojo to do intervals so I just did some steady state cardio instead. Better than nothin!

IW

iron_worker 04-23-2012 12:28 PM

Monday April 23rd, 2012

Grip Work

Trainer - 3x10
CoC #1 - 2x5
CoC #1.5 - 1x3
Coc #2 - RH:10,6 LH: 3,2


Thoughts

Left hand is still strugglin... but I got #2.5 and a book on grip training for my bday so I'll have to read through that and maybe figure out some new training ideas.

IW

iron_worker 04-23-2012 07:13 PM

Monday April 23rd, 2012

BW: 215.0lb

Bench Press
bar x 8
115lb x 5
145lb x 5
165lb x 5

180lb x 5
210lb x 5
235lb x 5(+4)

160lb - 3x10
165lb - 2x10


Pull-Ups
bw x 9,7,5,4,3


Thoughts

Bench went awesome today for some reason. I thought 8 reps would be solid ... surprised myself and rocked out 9.

I think the rowing is starting to show in my weight. I think I'll keep the cals the same for this cycle and if I'm still dropping I might bump it up next cycle. Can't hurt to lean out a touch. ha

Oh ya, and I cracked 16" on the bis today. Woo! 16" left and 16 1/8" right. Not huge but getting there.

IW

iron_worker 04-24-2012 06:23 PM

Tuesday April 24th, 2012

BW: 217.2lb

Deadlifts
mobility
90kg x 5
110kg x 5
130kg x 3

140kg x 5
162.5kg x 5
182.5kg x 5(+5)

Deadlifts
95kg - 3x10

Superset with...

Hanging Leg Raises
bw 2x12,1x10

Thoughts

400lb+ for 10x reps ... money weight! That set just about killed me. ha! I was completely gassed and couldn't even finish my 5x10. Ah well, I'm stoked about the progress.

IW

iron_worker 04-25-2012 05:28 PM

Wednesday April 25th, 2012

Conditioning


Rowing - Intervals
3 minute warm up
7 cycles of 30second sprint/1min slow
3 minute cool down


Thoughts

This will be my first time doing this during a heavy lifting week. We'll see how that affects my squats.

IW

iron_worker 04-26-2012 06:19 PM

Thursday April 26th, 2012

BW: 217.2lb

Military Press
bar x 8
85lb x 5
105lb x 5
125lb x 3

135lb x 5
160lb x 5
180lb x 5(+1)

95lb - 2x10
115lb - 1x10


Hammer Grip Cable Row
100lb x 10
160lb - 5x10

Thoughts

I tied my best mp 2nite and it took some serious effort to do it. I'm happy with that.

IW

iron_worker 04-27-2012 06:39 PM

Friday April 27th, 2012

BW: 216.0lb

Squats
bar x 8
135lb x 5
185lb x 5
220lb x 3

235lb x 5
270lb x 5
310lb x 5(+0)


Squats
155lb- 5x10

...superset with...

BB Bicep Curls
65lb - 5x10

Thoughts

Well I'm a little upset with myself for messing up my squats. I could have had a huge PR total week (it still was a PR but just by a few lb). I guess my very high intensity rowing had an effect on squats.

I may have to switch to a low intensity wednesday and high intensity on the weekend. I dunno.

And it's bday too!

IW

iron_worker 04-30-2012 12:09 PM

Monday April 30th, 2012

Grip Work

Trainer - 3x10
CoC #1 - 2x5
CoC #1.5 - 1x3
Coc #2 - 1x2
CoC #2.5 - 2 attempts each hand
CoC #2 - RH:8,5 LH:3,2

Thoughts

Well the 2.5 was miles away with my left... I thought I'd be able to get 1 out of the right hand but not to that too. Darn it!

IW


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