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Old 10-17-2008, 10:27 AM
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Kane..a suggestion for the hypertrophy work on rows plus lower back endurance.

Personally I think deloaded rows abslulutely suck for "lower back" and there are so many more direct and efficient means to get that.

I would highly recommend after doing your primary set switch to another row with support so that you can focus on the upper back rather than trying to kill two birds with one stone...which is a noble idea but not always the most productive, imho.

Then just do more core work. Planks, side planks (and various variations of those ), pallof press and other anti-rotation.

Remember that a big part of what we think of as lower back endurance is also abdominal endurance and stability. Basically trunk stability. And the rows really hardly engage the "stiffness" in this complete way.

There are lots of other things to do but I'll leave it at that for now.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:50 PM
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Kane..a suggestion for the hypertrophy work on rows plus lower back endurance.

Personally I think deloaded rows abslulutely suck for "lower back" and there are so many more direct and efficient means to get that.

I would highly recommend after doing your primary set switch to another row with support so that you can focus on the upper back rather than trying to kill two birds with one stone...which is a noble idea but not always the most productive, imho.

Then just do more core work. Planks, side planks (and various variations of those ), pallof press and other anti-rotation.

Remember that a big part of what we think of as lower back endurance is also abdominal endurance and stability. Basically trunk stability. And the rows really hardly engage the "stiffness" in this complete way.

There are lots of other things to do but I'll leave it at that for now.
My gym got rid of the good chest supported row machine and the new one they got is broken half the time because of idiots and noobs. So the only supported row I can think of being able to do is a dumbbell row, which isn't a bad option.

Are you saying I should be doing 1 set of deloaded rows and then maybe another 2-3 sets of supported ones? or 2-3 sets of deloaded and 1 supported? I'm not sure if you meant to say primary set or primary sets

I'll add in some planks and all that sort of fun at the end of the workout.

Thanks for the advice Eric.
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