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No toothpicks for legs, but they are weaker than my upper body yes. I'm actually proud of myself for making a stand and working legs for the first time in my life. I always used to avoid them because my rationale was that girls don't say, "Wow, nice legs" Now I can see though that all my other lifts improved since working legs. It won't be long before I pass my bench in squats. I could do alot more weight, but I want to focus completely on my form and going as far down as humanly possible.

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Biceps/Triceps/Forearms
1.Barbell Curls: 145 X 6, 150 X 6, 150 X 5
2.Close Grip Bench Press: 275 X 6, 285 X 6, 295 X 5
3.Incline Dumbbell: 60 X 6, 60 X 6
4.Skullcrushers: 70 X 6, 90 X 6
5.Hammer Curls: 65 X 6, 65 X 6
6.Cable Pressdowns: Stack X 8, Stack+10 X 6
7.Behind the Back Wrist Curls: 135 X 12, 135 X 12

-Went up again in Barbell curls. Infortunately my forearms are killing me again. So next week I''m going to critique my workouts a bit to give my forearms more training and recovery. I'm thinking of moving triceps to shoulders day so I can just focus on biceps and forearm training in one day.

Time for another change. I've done 2 half cycles of Max-OT and this is what I've come up with in regards to this program:

-Near the end of the cycle you absolutely need a spotter.
-Strength gains are the focus.
-The first 3-4 weeks you'll experience the biggest and most dramatic gains.
-My forearms only lasts for lifting heavy biceps for around 3 weeks.
-After 4 weeks your gains won't be as dramatic.

In light of all this, I think it's best to periodize this program in the loop with whatever you have. Yesterday was the first day of my DC Training. I went down in weight of course and the program kicked my ass the same as Max-OT did when I first started that. I figure I'll incorperate Max-OT at the beginning two weeks of every training cycle I start. This is to maximize my strength increases, then I'll switch over to DC Training for the duration of my training. At the end of DC, I'll take one week of the rest my joints, ligaments, and most importantly my CNS. :cool:

damn 311 makes me wanna do max- OT.

I'm a firm believer of periodization equals gains. Whether you're taking prohormones or not, it's the best method. If I were you, I'd follow my workout I posted and give it a go for 3-4 weeks, then move onto something else.

hi 0311... i'm making a post that will help everyone - i hope...

i thought people might want to see the Max OT workout as a PDF, so i've provided a link below which has a PDF (downloadable) version of the product

http://www.freedomfly.net/Documents/MAX-OT.pdf

please let me know if the page is not loadinging...

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