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shauny2times 05-22-2008 07:32 PM

measurments and stength at day 1 of sus 250
neck 15.5
right arm flexed 16.5 flat 13 3/4
left arm flexed 16 3/4 flat 14
stomach 37
waist 33 pant size
left thigh24
right thigh24
left calf16
right calf17

bench 245x 10
incline dumbels:WEIGHT~13::WEIGHT~13: 100s x 7
curl 115x10
closegrip bench 205 x10
military dumbell 85x10
bent row 205x10

5'11 200lbs decent diet well see how good this stuff works...

Ross86 05-22-2008 07:37 PM

Good luck. What's your PCT going to be like? What are your goals for strength/mass?

shauny2times 05-22-2008 07:42 PM

im just gonna train hard and see what i come up with my oy gave me a bottle of clomid and a bottle of nolvadex so im just gonna figure out how i should do em any input?? i got that ai cycle support for while im on and im thinkin bout 6oxo for pct too but think it might be over kill???

Ross86 05-22-2008 07:51 PM

I haven't read up much on clomid...that's on my to-do list. I've seen lots of PCTs that ramped down the nolva while inversely ramping up 6oxo. I have read several discussions about it & the logic is very sound. When you consider the risk of gyno, it's worth the extra $30 or so IMO. As soon as I get the chance (hopefully tomorrow), I'll post a bunch of stuff or PM you.

shauny2times 05-22-2008 07:56 PM

sweet let me know bro thanks

Ross86 05-27-2008 12:29 PM

This is a pretty good start. I think the third link has info found mostly in the second link, but I threw it in anyway. I remember reading some journals where people posted their workouts, PCT, etc on some of the other boards. I'll post the links when/if I find them.

shauny2times 05-27-2008 12:55 PM

nice work but no clue still about how to dose these and that 6oxo sounds a lil risky to me?? thanks ross

Ross86 05-27-2008 01:37 PM

If you look at the section titled "Discussion on running SERM inverse to ATD" at, it lists a sample PCT that looks pretty good to me. It has dosing on there. DHEA is pretty can pick it up at Walmart for about $6/bottle. It will help with libido during PCT. ReboundXT (RXT) is or has ATD in it. You can buy ATD for very cheap at Lean Xtreme (LX) & Retain2 are good for cortisol control. If I were you, I would do that sample PCT. Just read the entire explains everything very plainly.

hrdgain81 05-27-2008 01:46 PM

I was going to chime in, but ross has you covered ... I always run nolva inverse to serm, usually

nolva 40/30/20/10
ATD 0/25/25/50

although, I usually cut the ATD off at 25 for the most part. It drys my joints to bad that I just cant take it.

shauny2times 05-27-2008 02:07 PM

now is that days or weeks and what if i want to use nolva and clomid what should the doses be??

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