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Old 04-08-2008, 07:26 PM
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Damn! 3,000 cals are really low, especially for a guy you're size. I'm at roughly 4,000 - 4,100 cals per day, and am dropping weight like it's going out of style lol. Now, this is the same total I used to break myself into the diet itself as well during the startup phase.

Now, you didn't go a full 12 days before the carbup day. In my case, that's what I did so I was able to hit that switch faster. You're going to need to stick with the higher calories (16-18 x bodyweight) for around three to four weeks before you're good to go. That's what I would do if I were you just to be on the safe side.

What's different for me is the incorperation of a few bulk fat burning compounds, low intensity cardio 5-6 days a week upon waking up, and increasing the fish oil.. Viola.

Trying to preserve muscle mass is of course the priority, so leave that to heavy lifting and still maintaining an abundance of calories (especially protein), and let green tea, forskolin, and cardio take the fat off.

What's been great for me is the 3 way DC split with higher ranged RP's. It only takes me around 30 minutes to complete 3 exercises. So that allows me to get into the gym a lot earlier w/ my BCAA cocktail and hit up 30 minutes of low intensity cardio BEFORE lifting. This is my first time ever doing it this way, and when I break a light sweat from the walking, I head downstairs and I'm already fully warmed up. I need less warmup sets, and my intensity is MUCH higher because of it.

Off days I'm looking at more like 45 minutes when I wake up. Zero HIIT for me.
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:47 PM
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Damn! 3,000 cals are really low, especially for a guy you're size. I'm at roughly 4,000 - 4,100 cals per day, and am dropping weight like it's going out of style lol..
You also have almost 20lbs on me.
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Old 04-08-2008, 07:53 PM
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You also have almost 20lbs on me.
Yeah, but the point I'm making is that at 235, the startup diet for you is roughly 4,100 cals per day.. Which is what I'm eating. I should be closer to 4,800 cals.. But the reason why I'm not starting so high is because I was already accustomed to eating high protein/high fats.

The problem that happends with keto dieting is a reduction in performance in the gym. The lower the cals, the worse it's gonna get. Now, if you feel like you can handle a decline in the gym at 3,000 cals, then that's fine. But from what I've seen, most people hit the panic button within the first month when they cannot beat last week's numbers, blame the concepts of the diet, and abandon ship!

I've accomidated for the decline by incorperating much higher rest pause ranges as well as dropping the volume more. This should allow me to continue my progressions so long as cals are still kept high.

If you're choosing more volume, then I'd still be keeping cals really high. Probably a lot higher than what I'm eating now. You will most likely be strong at the onset of the training, but sooner or later during your sets, you'll hit a decline.

Just keep that in mind, and adjust accordingly.
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