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^^ Whichever aggrevates it the most .

I would take cleans out personally.

ill take cleans out of the circut then, ill tell coach i cant do them because of my shoulder. he'll be cool with it. ill get back on it a few days after it stops hurting. probably next wendsday or something. thanks guys, your always a help. i guess just because you've been lifting for a year anda half doesn't mean you know everything... or anything about actually lifting. lol.

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age: 18
height: 5'9"
weight: 198bs
bench 1RM: 275
parallel squat 1RM: 385
deadlift 1RM: N/A
hang clean 1RM: N/A

i wish i could live on crack and protien shakes...

Give it as much time as you need. Injuries can go from minor to major in a matter of even one workout. If it gets worse, then you may have to cut shoulders out altogether. Not trying to scare or anything but I take injuries seriously now...you'd be surprised at how much progress an injury can destroy.


ps. I haven't got that much experience on you, I've only got 2-3 yrs worth. Eric has like a billion compared to us though

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I don't think I'd want to do cleans in a circuit like that either. But if I were to rate the shoulder hurting potential I really hate upright rows. The thing is it's the context of it too. It's like right things, stacked on wrong things, stacked on ok things, stacked on wrong things. But I'd take out cleans too, at least a step in the right direction. An even better step would be for you coach to visit a few web sites, read a few books...heck they have a whole site dedicated to football training...lots of stuff on weights. Then there's us guys

But I really don't have a lot of personal experience with circuits. Just plenty experience with screwed up shoulders.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

he was the strengh and conditioning coach at our local div-1 college, so he really should know what he's doing. my shoulder is feeling better today, not 100% but around 85%. coach switched cleans with hex bar deadlift, he didn't want us using strait bar for space reasons. ill post my workout after 8 on the east coast, ive gutta drive from like now till then.

ok, ill start from the begining.

bench: 1x8 at 185 1x6 at 205 1x4 at 215 1x2 at 220
dumbbell curls: 1x8 with 35's 1x8 with 40's
forward arm raises: 2x8 with 20's
overhead tricep extentions: 2x7 with a 50
machine bent over rows: 2x6 at 60
dumbbell press: 2x6 with 75's
incline bench: 2x7 at 135
lat pulldown: 2x8 at 140
barbell step-ups: 2x6 at 95
leg press: 2x8 at 405
jerks: 2x7 at 115
upright row: 2x8 at 75
hex deadlift: 2x12 at 225 (most coach could help me put on in 30 seconds)
standing calf rasies: 2x8 at 260
leg extentions:2x15 at 75 (watching knee still)
leg curls: 2x10 at 130
knuckle pushups: 2x11 at bodyweight

no post cicut lift today, i was just plain to tired. my titties should be sore tommorow

pecs and tri's and rhomboids killing me. no lift today, just telling y'all how bad im feelin. i woke up today and i could barely use my right arm it hurt so bad to hold something as light as a towel. not cool. im gunna see the trainer at school tommorow about it if it still hurts. the odd thing was, after i was awake and moving for about an hour the shoulder didn't hurt much. it just feels extra sore compared to the other one.

coaches weren't there today. so i lifted with my old coach ive been lifting with before this journal. this is what we did

squat: 1x10 at 135 1x8 at 185 2x5 at 225 1x5 at 245
bench: 3x8 at 175 (minor wrist pain)
dumbell bench: 2x8 with 75's
bent over rows: 3x7 at 135

its great to lift with coach boudin again.took 2 hours to do these few lifts, talking and other people to share with.

coach kempton quit this morning, he couldn't get another job so he didn't have the money to keep coaching, really pissed off. what i did today.

incline bench: 2x10 at 135 2x5 at 155
squat: 2x8 at 225
bench: 4x7 at 185 2x3 at 205
deadlift: 2x9 at 245 1x5 at 265 2x5 at 285
cleans: 2x10 at 135 1x5 at 155 3x1 at 185

what i did today...

bench negitives: 3x3 at 315
bench: 3x2 at 225
dumbell bench: 5x10 with 75's 3x10 with 55's
incline dumbell bench: 5x8 with 55's
decline dumbell bench: 4x7 with 65's
lat pulldown (wicked close grip): 3x10 at 160
hack squat machine: 4x10 at 90