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Anything is worth a try ,Ross.

You have to go off of how you feel. If it works that's great !

A giant science experiment is how you have to look at it

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Sounds good. Did you feel like crap after you ate carbs?

Are you doing a keto diet?

Why not try a Timed carb diet http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/sh...ght=timed+carb

A little more sane and tasty too.

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I might try that eventually. I'm doing a cyclic ketogenic diet right now. I would actually rather stay in a ketogenic state. With a TKD like you mentioned, you still end up doing a carb up every 5-6 days or so. But you don't really ever get into a ketogenic state. I will be back in ketosis sometime tomorrow. To me, that's a little better. So long as I can adjust my carb frequency so that I have optimum glycogen levels while being in ketosis, I won't change anything else. I'm hoping this extra carb day will do it. I don't mind the diet at all. I actually hate having to try to eat carbs during a carb up.

Haha I have been thinking about a TKD after every workout since I started. Today was really the first day that I was completely dragging after my workout since my last carb up. I planned for it though...I brought a shake with +100g of carbs and started drinking it midway through my workout. I feel like I can already judge when I'll be depleted at least one workout ahead of time.

Thanks for reading my journal. If I'm off in my explanation above, then let me know. That's just how I rationalized it. Let me know if you have any other ideas. Today was the first day I revamped my training, so there should be some definite changes in the upcoming weeks.

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you sound like you've got it down to a perfect science. Just think how easy of will be after a Month or two .

I did feel like shit(tired) after a carb day. Tried to do it on a Saturday so I didn't have to do much Sunday.

I am curious to see where I'll be in a month or two.

Ok, I'm glad it's "normal" that I feel bad then. I'm fine until an hour or two after my workout, then I feel like poop on carb days. Because this was a short carb up, hopefully I'll feel good in the morning. It was kind of a waste too...I only took in 200-250g of carbs. Next time I'll do it without fat and try to get +400g of carbs in 6 hours.

I took this from the AD diet. Just so you see it says on the carb up days keep your carbs/fat high and protein LOW.

That is very interesting. Thanks for the heads up there. I had read two different things regarding fat intake during the carb up. That clears it up for me. I had read that a long time ago. Then I read something about a similar diet that said it was better to keep fat low, but it conflicted with what I had read before. So...I'll do the fat thing for sure. Looks like pizza might be the best food for me during a carb up. (jk)

3 board press - 185X5, 205X3, 225X3
4 board press - 245X3, 275X2 forced reps
Machine shoulder press - triples from 130 to...the whole stack which might be 250? in 30lb intervals

I messed up my form on the last rep at 245. The guy working with me made me try 275 (I didn't know how my shoulder was at that point). I got loose on the first rep and came down too fast. I did two forced reps...the guy spotting me was pissed (kind of) at me for not getting at least one of the reps because he said I should have had it without too much of a problem. Shoulder is pretty sore now, so no heavy pressing for a few days. I think I messed up my form because I was subconsciously trying to take strain off of my shoulder. I was hoping that board pressing wouldn't be as hard on it. No such luck. It was my first time board pressing anyway. Overall a good experience.

board pressing is the funs