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TALO 11-16-2006 07:24 PM

Nov 16

Close grip Bench 2*10*135, 5*5*185
Standing Barbell Curls 5*5*115
Dips 10* Body, 8* 45
Dumbbell Curls 10*38's,8*48's
Skull Crushers 10*105*2
one arm Precher Curls (machine) 10*6, 6*7,4*4
Wrist Curls 15,10,8 w/75lbs.

Nice pump in the arms today, but after reading a few things on here I know some people don't think arms need a day on their own. So will I be overtraining my arms because of this ?
They still feel really good. So far after each workout I have been sore for a few days (good ). It's been awhile and I think going from one program to the next has a huge effect on this. Hopefully the siz and strength comes.

TALO 11-19-2006 12:29 PM

Nov 19

squat 5*5*325
Leg Press 10*1*540,8*1*630
Stiff Legged Dead's 6@225,10@135
Leg Curls 10@160,10@160
calve raises 15@180,15*4*270
abs : cruches,leg lifts,weighte pull downs

TALO 11-20-2006 03:46 PM

NOV 20

Bench : warmup 2*10*135 plus 55lb chains per side.
5*5*235
Incline 10*185 , 6*205 - took off 35's and did another 6 *135
Decline bench 10* 205, 10*205

Decline is always easier. Quick workout today, but still went hard.
also had a very good stretch and did some cardio.

TALO 11-22-2006 09:17 AM

Nov 21

Military 2*10*95 (warmup) 5*5*145
Side raises 3*10*38's (dumbbells)
Dead's 5*5*285
Chins 2*10 with body
Rows 2*10*185
shrugs 1*10*315, 1*8*405
Bent over side raise 2*10*28's

Not a bad workout...I don't think I'm going to get to much stronger with this program

EricT 11-22-2006 03:13 PM

Hey, bro I just noticed your warmups are a little much and are not really structured optimally. They may be taking too much out of you. You should read the How to Warm Up sticky to get some ideas.

TALO 11-22-2006 05:35 PM

Maybe I wrote it down wrong. I only did 2 warmup sets with 135lbs.for bench(Sometimes I used chains on top of that), shoulders was 2 with 95lbs. this was to heavy for a warm up I think
According to the warmup sticky I should do 3 warmup sets, 2 weight acclimation and then do 3 working sets. But my thinking was, since I am suppost to do 5 * 5 working sets that maybe the acclimation would be just to much.
I might be wrong, and maybe I'm not doing it proper. If I did it that way, that would be 10 sets. Wouldn't that be too much? If not then I will change it.

EricT 11-23-2006 12:28 PM

Well I don't think it's a question of what's proper, just what works best. With the weights your at you definitely don't need 10 sets. More like 5 would work. The acclimation sets really make a big difference. I understand what you're getting at but if you take into account that the starting weight should be lower...using the bench example like you did I would try something like this:

120x8
120x6
150x4
180x2
215x1

Now that would be me. I am minimalist and also I don't like to do more than 8 reps for a warmup. If you were benching in the 400 range it could be more. But the above example is a pretty good starting point and shouldn't take anything out of you. I guarantee it's better than what you did before but of couse you need to experiment to see what works best. This kind of warmup is actually more important when you're doing 5x5 same weight than ramping up like you were doing before since then those ramp up set were really a warmup in themselves. For that I actually do less warmup. But the warmup sticky was just meant as a sort of guideline I didn't mean to say I though you should follow everything verbatim. (Like me on the "only 8 reps thing).

TALO 11-27-2006 01:28 PM

The last 4 days (and possibly tomorrow) were complete right off's. Due to work problems . I have decided to give this routine up and go back to the 5*5 program that I was doing before. Plus I haven't had half the gains with this as I did with the other.
My shoulder is feeling alot better,but just incase, I'm going to drop the incline press and focus on military.


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