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Old 04-05-2005, 07:41 AM
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It would be great if there was some sort of formula with knowing the max weight and deriving the warmup weights. Or at least get close for a starting point.

I'm going to take some of the samples they have and run the numbers to see what I come up with. It may be useful.
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Old 04-05-2005, 09:27 AM
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looking good WM. Keep at it, and those results will come. slow and steady is the road to better health, and a better body.

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Old 04-05-2005, 09:30 AM
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It would be great if there was some sort of formula with knowing the max weight and deriving the warmup weights. Or at least get close for a starting point.

I'm going to take some of the samples they have and run the numbers to see what I come up with. It may be useful.
Just write down what you think your maxes are close to and I'll tell you how to warm up. I got this down pat... :cool:
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Old 04-05-2005, 09:39 AM
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Thanks hrdgain81.

0311 -> That's another thing, I haven't gone for any maxes.

Lets take Bench though. I think right now 225 is my max. Maybe more but not too much. What would you think for that?
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Old 04-05-2005, 10:25 AM
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Thanks hrdgain81.

0311 -> That's another thing, I haven't gone for any maxes.

Lets take Bench though. I think right now 225 is my max. Maybe more but not too much. What would you think for that?
First, never try and find your max. It's a waste of a day training. There are websites that have calculators that find your max with whatever you can lift. I know muscletech.com has one. Here's something to try:
1.135 X 12 slow
-2 minute rest
2.135 X 10 fast (3-0-1)
-3 minutes rest
3.165 X 4 fast (3-0-1)
-2-3 minutes rest
4.195 X 1 (3-0-2)
-2 minutes rest
5.205 X 1 (3-0-1)
-3 minutes rest
6.225 X ?

I figure 135 is easy and you shouldn't need to dip below that. If it feels even a fraction too heavy then drop down. Just keep in your head that it won't fatigue you in the least. The first two are your warmups, then the last 3 are weight acclimation sets. Just listen to your body and record how it helped and felt. At the end of that day you'll have a good understanding of what to do.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:42 PM
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Alright... done. 135 to start was too heavy. I knew it right away. Luckily I had made up another workout with 185 as my max. Yeah yeah I'm a sissy... I know.

I made up a spreadsheet to take with me to write down what I did and it really helps.

Also today I know I could have gone heavier. I made some mid-stream adjustments but didn't push real hard. I don't want injury nor do I want to curl up in the middle of the night like a pillbug screaming.

Squat
Reps/Weight
12 x 85
10 x 85
6 x 120
3 x 145
1 x 165
3 x 6 x 185

185 was the right weight for the three sets of six. Since I completed them I'll put some 5's on for the next workout.

Leg Press
I was way off on this one. I put two 45's on each side and it was just too easy. I adjusted with two more plates for three on a side but even then it was too easy. I'll adjust for next time.
3 x 4 plates
6 x 4 plates
6 x 6 plates

Stiff Leg Deadlifts
Off again. Too light but this is an exercise where I need to keep form so I would hate to go too heavy here.
3 x bar
2 x 6 x 95

Standing Machine Calves
The gym doesn't have one so I used this Nautilus thing that has a belt around the waist. Sucked. After the workout I spotted the smith machine and will use that next time.

3 x stack
2 x 8 x stack

45 leg press calf raises
The leg press was such that you couldn't do calf raises and get a stretch so I substituted seated calf raises. Hope that works as well.
Again too light.
3 x 2 plates
2 x 8 x 2 plates

Overall I got a good workout though not great due to being off on my weights. I felt I probably did as well as my normal workout though before Max-OT. I shall see how I feel tomorrow and the next day.

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Lets take Bench though. I think right now 225 is my max. Maybe more but not too much. What would you think for that?
Sorry dude, but 225 will be in your future though. This program will definately get you there faster than anything else.
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:21 PM
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I'll get there pretty quick. I think part of the issue may be conditioning. It's more reps then I am used to. Once I get my legs in better shape I'll make some fast gains then taper off to a steady growth.
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It's 10:13 now and my legs are dead. That's good. My son had a baseball game and since I'm the pitchers and catchers coach I did plenty of squatting and warking up pitchers. That was interesting.
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Today was arms/abs. I had my weights all wrong but I kept track and made notes. I should be closer next time.

I know that Max-OT doesn't give you the typical pump but I really didn't feel as if I had hit the muscles. Right now they are still tight so I know I did something.

Yesterday my leg day was very intense using Max-OT and I expected my legs to be sore. They aren't but they are still a bit "dead". Not sure if that is good or not.
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