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Strength Gone?!!?



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Old 04-14-2009, 11:38 AM
Jester2415 Jester2415 is offline
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lol your friends are probably bracing themselves. IE using their legs to distribute the force you exert on them. That's why in marital arts they stress proper balance and foot position. You're not pushing DEAD WEIGHT. Their adding the strength of their own muscle, plus their body weight, plus the friction of their feet against the ground. If you can easily push them over then it's more likely they aren't standing properly then an indication of your power.
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Old 04-15-2009, 05:24 PM
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I want to get strong, feel strong and prove that i am strong. i am bigger than my friends and i can lift much more weight than them but sometimes i feel like a wimp or that i am big for nothing.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:41 AM
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lol your friends are probably bracing themselves. IE using their legs to distribute the force you exert on them. That's why in marital arts they stress proper balance and foot position. You're not pushing DEAD WEIGHT. Their adding the strength of their own muscle, plus their body weight, plus the friction of their feet against the ground. If you can easily push them over then it's more likely they aren't standing properly then an indication of your power.
I think you may be missing the point of the post here, Jester. He didn't say his friends were expert martial artists. The average guy doesn't know anything about bracing himself. To me, this seemed more of a problem with his perception with how strong he is rather than how strong his friends are.

Look at the other side of all that complicated physics. While the "opponent" can brace themselves and are not dead weight, yada yada, what happens to YOU when you push the opponent. To every reaction there is a reaction, right? So you push your friends and they don't move but you feel weak and unstable..that is a good indication that your training does not fit your goals. I.E. if your goal is to FEEL strong and prepared for whatever may come rather than just being able to push around a dead weight, you need to get off the bodybuilding machines, off the bench and train YOURSELF to be able to transfer power from the ground, to the core and through the arms.

I doubt very much that it is appropriate that a guy who is bigger than all his friends should feel weak when tussling with them.

Brian, since your goals are of a general nature you probably just need to make some simple changes in your training philosophy. You'll need to list out your training and give a bit of history and I'm sure people can make suggestions based on that.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 04-16-2009, 03:34 PM
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I don't think having a proper stance is "yada yada". A proper stance is everything... you can have all the power in the world but still get the shit end of the stick in a tussle without proper training. Ask any real wrestler, football player, or marital artist... hell even a golfer will stress this: Power comes from form.

Brian avoid micro managing. IE try lifts that use the majority of your muscles in one fluid motion/rep. Squats are ideal and so are deadlifts for legs. Power cleans and Bench are cool too. I'm sure you do them already but try to focus on them as an indication of your power, everything else you do should revolve around the core lifts.

Personally I like lots of heavy weight and few reps. Then I build up in reps over the weeks. Till I "master" the weight then I start over with more challenging weight. And I rest alot. The guys that kill themselves everyday in the gym I've noticed burn out faster. Wait a month and you should feel stronger.

I hope this helps, all the advice I can give you is what has helped me so best of luck.
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