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Ross86 01-21-2009 06:42 AM

Haha :)

I'll explain a bit in case anyone else reads this thread. Fructose replenishes liver glycogen and then gets stored as fat. Glucose replenishes muscle glycogen before being stored and is more easily used for energy. Sucrose is a combination of fructose and glucose, so it has both properties. Unless your liver glycogen is severely depleted :alcoholic:, then some type of glucose or starch is the best carbohydrate choice for a gainer.

mad matt 01-21-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross86 (Post 75530)
Ok, so here's the skinny on the situation.

PWO, you want a low fat 3:1 or 4:1 ratio of high GI carbs to whey protein for rapid glycogen replenishment. This helps to bring the body into an anabolic state.

If your workouts do not severely deplete glycogen and/or you don't train consecutive days, then having high GI carbs PWO isn't essential. It is still important to consume carbs and protein. You will still reach the anabolic state.

For me, the easiest thing in the world is to just throw back a shake with high GI carbs & a little protein. I just feel better knowing that I've brought myself out of a catabolic state and I'm replenishing glycogen quickly.

After your PWO shake, you should consume a meal that's very high in protein. That's when protein will do the most good.

So in your case Matt, you could eat some carbs and lean protein immediately after training. Then have another portion of lean protein and carbs about an hour or so afterwards.

Net caloric/macronutrient intake is the most important aspect. Nutrient timing is pretty important too. It helps to optimize your growth.

When I'm being good with my diet, I have a PWO shake. Then 30 minutes later, I have a low fat, high protein meal. Then about 2 hours after that, I'll have a balanced meal that's still high in protein, but that contains fat.

Thank you for this Ross, i do have a response, im just checking its an educated one as im doing some research on this now..

general 01-23-2009 12:37 PM

yea i'm not looking to use the gainer instead of eating a lot of food im just looking to use it as a little something extra to hopefully get me to the calorie number that i need everyday.

On a little side note i just got the Pumping Iron video in the mail. Its about Arnold Schwartzzeneger(i dont think thats spelled correctly) im so sycked to watch it.

Ross86 01-23-2009 12:41 PM

Haha it's not a bad vid. Have you seen Bigger, Stronger, Faster?

general 01-24-2009 01:34 PM

i watched pumping iron last night and it was pretty sweet i got the 25th anniversary addition and it had an interview w/ arnold and he admitted that almost all of the people in that video were on roids includinding him because it wasnt illegal at the time. but they still trained hard it motivated me....and no i havent seen bigger, stronger, faster. what is that movie about exactly

Ross86 01-24-2009 01:50 PM

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In America, we define ourselves in the superlative: we are the biggest, strongest, fastest country in the world. Is it any wonder that so many of our heroes are on performance enhancing drugs? Director Christopher Bell explores America's win-at-all-cost culture by examining how his two brothers became members of the steroid-subculture in an effort to realize their American dream. Written by BSF Film
I just pulled that short summary about bigger stronger faster. It's a great movie IMO.

general 01-25-2009 12:41 PM

it sounds interesting ill def. have to check it out


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