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Old 11-05-2005, 08:20 PM
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What is the best product i should use to bulk up? currently using creatine
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:38 AM
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Protein Powder.

I use On's 100% Whey. It's $26 for 5 lbs which is very difficult to beat.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:01 AM
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Get the new MEGA MASS 4000 by Wieder it's great for bulking up. Prosource.net has cheapest prices i think it's like 31 bucks for a 10 pound box.
It has 82 grams of protine per serving and lots of goodies.Check it out my brother.


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a regiment of arginine, ornithine and lysine couldnt hurt.
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What is the best product i should use to bulk up? currently using creatine
Some ideas that might help:

Nutrition / Diet / Macros:
Bulking (a calorie surplus to gain lean muscle mass at a optimal rate):
If there is ONE SINGLE KEY to the gains I made in the 1 1/2 years when I went from 175-225 (my best.. leanest gains), it is CALORIE DENSE FOODS like OATS. The emphasis here is that oats are a INEXPENSIVE, HEALTHY, yet VERY CALORIE DENSE FOOD. I saw lean gains like I had never seen before. But NO THEY DON'T TASTE GOOD. YOU HAVE TO FORCE FEED THEM. This gets old fast. I added about 1 cup of oats to each protein shake.

Hungry Hungry Hormones
Massive Eating
Stretch Mark Mass

Just a example of some foods and quantities that I aim for daily:
  • 1lb beef per day
  • 1 Gallon Milk per day
  • Around 2000 cals per day from oats
  • Lots of protein shakes (up to 8 per day)
  • Chicken / Turkey
  • Beef / Sloppy Joes (manwich)
  • Rice
  • Pasta
  • Tuna
  • Potatoes
  • Veggies (Fresh if possible)

What are some good indications that I'm gaining muscle... ?

Mirror / Appearance
Measurements
Strength
Bodyweight
Cutting (a calorie deficit to lose fat at a optimal rate):
During a cutting / fatloss phase, I eat many of the same foods above, but with a lower TOTAL DAILY CALORIE INTAKE. I put a emphasis on PRE- and POST-workout nutrition, and the end result is that most of my calories are eaten before my afternoon workout. I have found this to be ideal (for me).

Fullness Factor Chart 1
Fullness Factor Chart 2


What it my basal metabolic rate ?

Your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the energy used (measured in calories) by your body to perform basic functions, including internal energy expenditure, breathing, and body temperature. It is the number of calories your body would expend if you performed no physical activity throughout the day.

Simply put... your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the rate at which your body burns calories while you rest. This is very important because we only have so much time for cardio each day.

BMR Calculator:
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

Where can I learn more about the "Fatloss Basics ?"

Fatloss Basics Part 1
Fatloss Basics Part 2
Fatloss Basics Part 3
Fatloss Basics Part 4

What are some good indications that I'm losing fat... ?

Mirror / Appearance
Measurements
Bodyfat caliper
Bodyweight



Workout / Routine:
Cardio:

Recovery (A.K.A GROWTH !):
  • With proper intensity MUST COME PROPER RECOVERY !
  • Make sure and get enough protein right before you go to sleep.
  • Make sure and get enough protein/carbs right when you wake up
  • Make sure and get enough deep, quality sleep (Not getting enough quality sleep is the #1 newbie mistake. You should aim for at least 8 QUALITY hours of sleep per night):
  • http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_1_pr.htm
  • http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_2_pr.htm
  • Make sure and get enough protein / calories on off days (This is when your body will be recovering) It is important to be consistent !
  • Make sure and get proper pre and post-workout nutrition:
  • Carbs pre and post workout
  • Protein pre and post workout
  • Creatine pre and post workout
  • Pre, During, & Postworkout Nutrition (Click here)




Supplements:

SAVE $$$$$ ! ! STICK WITH THE BASICS:

Multivitamin
(Click here for a Multivitamin Comparison Chart)
10 lb bags of Optimum Whey Protein
(Great BCAA profile AND glutamine... Note: I recommend Choc / Choc Mint only)
Creapure Creatine or Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL or Magnesium Creatine Chelate
Fishoil / Essential Fatty Acids
Essential Amino Acids [Free Form Powder] pre-workout

Stay on creatine, there is no need to cycle it ! (cycling and loading are totally optional)

Creatine timing (when / how to take it):

Science behind creatine timing
In depth look at creatine

For best results, aim for AROUND 2g of total daily protein intake per lb of bodyweight EVERY SINGLE DAY ! !

Example:

Bodyweight: 200lbs
Total daily protein intake: 400g

Here is why:

Protein Prejudice
Protein intake studies
BCAA's / Leucine



Cell volumization:

Make sure and drink enough water both throughout the day and during your workout (this is CRITICAL ! !) I drink about 1 liter per hour, and at least 3 liters during my workout. (Keep in mind I am currently over 240lbs so you may not need this much).

H2O / Cell Volumization... the ultimate supplement
Stretch Mark Mass !
The role of cellular hydration in the regulation of cell function
In depth look at creatine
Glycerine / Glycerol
Nitric Oxide
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Deadlifting Tips:
http://www.controlledlabs.com/forum/...read.php?t=199
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MAX-OT Training Basics
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:46 AM
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Some quality brands / products that I recommend:

Creatine:
Green Bulge (caps)
Green MAGnitude (powder)
CVM Xtreme (powder)
Thunder (caps)
Xpand (powder)
Xpand Energized (caps)
Creapure (powder)
Sizeon (powder)
EAA / BCAA:
Purple WRAATH - Grape (BCAA / EAA + Ergogenics)
Bulk Leucine powder - Unflavored $25 per kilo
MRM BCAA+G - Lemonade (BCAA)
Xtend - Watermelon (BCAA)
Fatloss / Thermogenics:
Red Acid
EC Stack
Lean Xtreme
GABA
Forskolin
Blue Up (Original)
SesaGLOW
Ergogenic / Stim:
Purple WRAATH - Grape (BCAA / EAA + Ergogenics)
Red Acid
nEuphoria
PowerJolt
StimX
CNS Caffeine
Ergopharm AMP
GABA
Cerebral
Whey Isolate:
Ergopharm I-PRO - Rasberry
Ergopharm I-PRO - Cherry
Syntrax Nectar - Fuzzy Navel
Whey Concentrate / Blend:
Optimum Nutrition - Chocolate (includes Aminogen)
Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey - Chocolate Mint (includes Aminogen)
Dymatize - Orange
Casein Protein:
Milk
Cottage Cheese
Yogurt
Weight Gainer / Carbohydrate:

Black HOLE (Appetite Stim)
Palatinose
Oats
Steel Cut Oats
Peanut Butter
Almonds
Whey
Milk
NOW Foods Maltodextrin (last resort)
Yogurt
Swolen
Infusion
Testosterone / Hormone support during a cutting phase:
Blue Up (Stim Free) if using Ephedrine / Red Acid
Blue Up (Original) if using as a standalone
Diesel Test
Raw Test
Nettle Root Extract
DIM
Digestion / Enzymes / PhytoNutrients:

Black HOLE (Appetite Stim)
Yogurt
Spirulina
NOW Super Enzymes
Aminogen
DIM
Ginger
EFA's (Essential Fatty Acids)
Optimum Fishoil
KAL Fishoil
Multivitamin:
NOW ADAM (includes ZMA)
Sleep Aids:
NOW ADAM (includes ZMA)
Optimum Nutrition Melatonin
NOW NightTime Herbs
NOW 5-HTP
White Blood
Nitric Oxide Precursors / Extreme Cell Volumization:
GlycerGrow
White Blood
NOW AAKG 3500
ErgoPharm 1-NO
GH Max



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