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Old 08-22-2007, 06:27 AM
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After reading the 0311's thread about raw eggs and the fact that protein is altered by cooking, it got me thinking about mixing whey with hot water, like when making cocoa. The reason I mix my whey with hot water is because I just bought a different brand and it does not mix well in cold water. I do not like to use a blender because way too much air gets mixed in and think that translates to gas. It mixes good in hot water, then I add some cold water and drink it warm.

I'm wondering if anyone knows if mixing whey in hot water changes it in any way?
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:57 AM
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I would think that it would denature the protein in powerdered whey. The egg thread pertains to whole RAW foods.
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:51 AM
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I don't know how denatured protein acts. I tried looking it up, but everything is too technical for me to understand. I guess I'm asking if mixing whey with hot water will make it less effective.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:19 PM
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It'll change it no doubt. But whey can be heated and still be a good protein. It's temperature dependent to. Your just putting it in hot water to mix better you're not boiling it on the stove. Whey is used in all sorts of cooked products but I'd look at it like this: whey is supremely digestible as it is. Cooking it certainly is not going to improve it so it really can't do anything much good to it. But by the time you get it it's already been pasterized anyway when it was milk. I doubt just mixing it in hot water is going to be a huge deal and in the context of a high protein diet where you eat a lot and use alot of whey in general it shouldn't make too much of a difference.

I certainly wouldn't do that for pre/post workout and I would say most of you whey should not be served hot but I wouldn't worry about it a whole lot.

I know Will Brink has a bunch of protein bar recipes and what not featuring whey and that guy knows a whole lot about whey and nutrition in general.

Something I've been saying and am going to keep saying about whey and protein sups in general is that people are putting way too much stock in the "effectiveness" of them. Besides pre and post where the fast absorbing nature of whey (especially isolate but any whey really) gives it a huge advantage it comes down to one thing. If how you use a protein supplement makes a difference then probably you are not getting enough protein and good nutrition in general. Protein sups are just to top off your protein in that regard and if you don't worry about how you grill your steak and it's "effectiveness" I don't see why anyone should worry that way about their protein powders.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:23 PM
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Out of curiosity, what brand of pp are you using that mixes well with warm/hot water? Most of the ones I've ever used end up rubbery and clumped when I try to do that.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:31 PM
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Eric,
I don't use a lot of whey. I do the basic pre and post workout scoop. Thanks for your insight.

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Out of curiosity, what brand of pp are you using that mixes well with warm/hot water? Most of the ones I've ever used end up rubbery and clumped when I try to do that.
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It's Dymatize Nutrition Elite Whey Protein Isolate. It was cheaper by a few bucks so I thought I'd try it. It's a lot finer (more powdery) than other brands I've tried.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:39 PM
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I use Dymatize Elite and it's never worked for me. Hmm.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:42 PM
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You mean mixing it hot? Did it mix OK for you cold?
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:46 PM
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You mean mixing it hot? Did it mix OK for you cold?
It mixes great cold for me. Trying to mix it hot I get those nasty rubber clumps. Maybe it's something to do with the different flavors? I've got butter toffee and cafe mocha.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:53 PM
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I've got Rich Chocolate and like I said, it's real fine...finer than I'm used to. Oh well, I only have about 4 more pounds to use up.
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