multi vitamins and minerals.

[TALO]

I know everyone here takes their vitamins and minerals. Once a day or twice a day.

I was wondering if anyone injects their vitamins? I have been talking to a few people that do this ( mostly B12 with some extras) and they swear by it. They can accually feel the difference in energy and their joints aren't as stiff/sore.

Personally, I just take a multi Pak aprox 12 pills , but I was thinking of adding an injectable. I have never stuck myself with a needle, so this is the major that I would have to over come. But it seems to help them, so I'm just wondering your thoughts.

[EricT]

I wouldn't advize it. Your body wasn't really meant to recieve nutrients in that way. It bypasses natural pathways and I would think that could end up doing some damage after a while. I think people are taking things to far and this type of thing should not be done except by an MD when circumstances dictate it.

Just my .02.

[TALO]

I do agree with what your saying, however by taking an injection are you not just skipping the digestive system ? And going straight to the source.
Maybe after awhile of doing it alot it might screw something up, but lets say 1ml 2 - 3 x week (different site inj).


I don't know, so I'm not arguing just trying to figure it out.

[EricT]

No, because when you bypass the digestive system you bypass other normal pathways. It's never really so simple as just skipping the gastrointestinal system.

It's obviously not unheard of to get injections of this nature. Especially vitamin b-12. For instance if you have pernicious anemia which result from the lack of and "intrinsic factor" needed to absorb b-12. So the treatment would be a series of deep injections. But even then it would only be used to get the levels up to normal and then the levels would be maintained with big oral doses. A doctor would never keep someone on injections for long periods of time unless it was absolutely necessary.

Then there are gastrointestinal disordes. Chron's or Sprue for instance, that would require the same thing. But again oral doses would be used for maintenance after normal levels were reached. The levels would be monitored and injections would only be used again if they fell enough.

[Kane]

^^ Agreed. I wouldn't trust that method. Especially when you consider the immediate results. How long do the affects last? and What else is immediately affected by the injection? Just my concerns, I have no idea how it works or what the theory behind it is.

[TALO]

gotcha.....so if it ant broke , don't fix

[TALO]

Originally Posted by Kane

I have no idea how it works or what the theory behind it is.

I'm not to familer with it either, and I don't trust the people that do this ( they are the type to put anything in their body) So I thought I would ask some people that I do trust...

[EricT]

It was thought, btw, for a long time that injections were superior for people who needed them but it is now known that oral supplements work just as well and are a whole lot cheaper.

Keep in mind that when you use an inectable solutions you are injecting other stuff into yourself as well. Such as preservatives. They'll be coursing through your blood stream before your liver gets a chance to deal with them.

Another danger, especially with b vitamins, is that taking in huge amounts of one can mask deficiencies in another. Everything affects everything else. There are people who have suffered permanent damage from b-12 defeciency, for example, because they took big long term doses of folic acid, masking the obvious symptom, anemia, and allowing the neurological effects to run rampant until it's too late to reverse them. It's very rare but just an example of what I'm talking about.

[TALO]

Originally Posted by Eric3237

It was thought, btw, for a long time that injections were superior for people who needed them but it is now known that oral supplements work just as well and are a whole lot cheaper.

I always thought that injections were safer and better.

Originally Posted by Eric3237

Keep in mind that when you use an inectable solutions you are injecting other stuff into yourself as well. Such as preservatives. They'll be coursing through your blood stream before your liver gets a chance to deal with them.

I never even thought about the preservatives, and I guess there is no way of telling how clean it is or is there ?

[EricT]

I always thought that injections were safer and better.

Not really. It is still useful for some people. The biggest reason to do it is because it is very quick when levels are very low. Kind of like when you have an infection and they give your an antibiotic injection to get the ball rolling but then you just take the pills for the rest of the time.

You know when you eat the fact is you are taking in toxins all the time. But your body is built to deal with them in various ways. Some of those ways work throught the digestion system. Some throught the liver and the kidneys.

Sometimes older people need more b-12 because of atrophic gastritis. Vitamin b-12 is attached to proteins and when you have that there is not enough hydrochloric acid to cleave the b-12 from the proteins. The used to give injections for that. But is you take an oral b-12 supplement there is no protein....so no problem!