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Old 03-10-2009, 07:58 PM
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Based on my understanding, blood creatine levels don't make a difference during a workout. If you're training once a week, then taking it only on training days doesn't make sense. That might explain the time frame argument you made.

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If your saturated then your doing more harm than good. Tough on the liver and the bodies filtration along with continued saturation can cause the body to slow down its own process of creatine. Also, the body can only take so much before it becomes waste.
bs, bs, bs. It's not hard on the liver if you're dosing around 5g/day. Endogenous production might slow after a few months...that's why lots of people choose to cycle it. Obviously it becomes waste after a certain point. Otherwise people would be taking 1000g/day.

No other form has been proven to work BETTER than CM. Like I've said before, creatine is creatine is creatine. The only question is absorption and monohydrate has been proven to be absorbed effectively.

All I'm hearing is idle speculation. Still.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:03 PM
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Based on my understanding, blood creatine levels don't make a difference during a workout. If you're training once a week, then taking it only on training days doesn't make sense. That might explain the time frame argument you made.


bs, bs, bs. It's not hard on the liver if you're dosing around 5g/day. Endogenous production might slow after a few months...that's why lots of people choose to cycle it. Obviously it becomes waste after a certain point. Otherwise people would be taking 1000g/day.

No other form has been proven to work BETTER than CM. Like I've said before, creatine is creatine is creatine. The only question is absorption and monohydrate has been proven to be absorbed effectively.

All I'm hearing is idle speculation. Still.


Ok, obviously you didnt read all the links that were attached to my earlier response. You claimed that one of my sources, Albion International, is promoting their product and Im sure they are...along with every other site and study. The part I dont think you read was the research done on creatine monohydrate and the lack of the stomachs ability to absorb it due to the acidic condition. Quote--"Although creatine [as monohydrate] has been shown to be a very effective substance, it is important to note that creatine, with the amino group [NH] gamma to the carboxylic acid, makes it prey to acid hydrolysis. Whatever the rationale, it has been CLEARLY shown that creatine has a propensity to form creatinine, under acidic conditions. In fact, in acidic aqueous solutions, the formation of creatinine from creatine is nearly total and irreversible. From this, one can see that a great deal of creatine can be transformed irreversibly into creatinine, when exposed to the stomachs acidic conditions. Once creatinine is formed, it is no longer of any physiological benefit". [Albion Research Notes Volume 8, No.2]. This non absorbed, up to 66% of the product, bile is what causes the bloating, gastrointestinal distress, required loading period, having to stop taking mono for periods of time and the need for large doses of product and liquids. What has been discovered is by using a chelate formula, the absorbtion, using the small intestines, avoiding the acidic conditions of the stomach now making it almost 100% absorbed without ANY side effects.-[Studies done in powder form]. Gells and pills are ingested throught the stomach no matter what form of creatine is being used.

I hope this new information is what you were looking for. I used Albion International Research [ to end any speculation] as a referrence since they are known and respected worldwide along with their study findings being highly regarded.

Albion Research [Dec 1999 Vol 8, No.3]

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Creatinemonohydrate.net

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