Alright, I've ran out one bottle of vapor! Still pleased with the results. I'm actually kind of disappointed I'm out. Of course I'm going to stray away from it for at least a month. I still think it's good stuff just way too expensive. I'm going to start cee, citruline malate, and malto pre starting Monday. I apreciate the tip Hardgain. Oh yeah and one thing I did notice on the vapor, it really is a LOT more effective on an empty stomach! If they put this stuff on sale, I think it's worth a try IMO. I'm going to stay thumbs up on it. I'll probably give it another run soon!