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Yeah, bad sleep postions will do that. Does it tend to hurt when you turn your head?

My necks is f****d up but as far as stiffness the "trap stretch" I talked about basically covers the upper traps and levator scapula and the LS is one of the main culprits for that stiff neck feeling.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

I can turn my head side to side, it is more problematic in flexion (all directions).

Gotcha. You're right on the money with looking at problems like sleep and such. Of course if you get a sense there is a certain exercise causing problems that's important but people tend to assume that EVERY problem is related to their training and discount the things they do the other 22 or 23 hours a day.

I would look at your neck positioning when you lift. Craining the chin and hyperextending the neck is something I think we all tend to do without realizing that. Honestly I think head position is the main thing I have to constantly remind myself about and check myself on..it's the hardest thing to get right.

And I would say that this might be a time when some static stretching BEFORE a workout could help. Stretch the neck with some gentle flexion. Some rotation. And stretch the upper traps/levator scapula before lifting to try to tone down those muscles that may be overactive. May not be the problem but I don't think it will hurt. As long as when you stretch it is not painful. Maybe some discomfort but no pain.

Pity on the shoulder stretches you have to check ROM before you get into different stretches. Likely you should find a difference between shoulders. Like I said before the internal rotators (pecs, lats, and teres major are the major internal rotators of the shoulder) will probably want some stretching. But whether you need to work on external rotation range of motion and things like that you have to evaluate. Probably do. Check the end of the stretching article thread and the end of the injuries thread for info.

I heard that if you got a Viagra stuck in your throat that you would get a stiff neck.........

good ole austin powers

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