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Old 10-08-2006, 09:48 AM
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You know what, Ted, I'll give you a specific recommendation without seeing any more pictures and judging from you wish to "get bigger in size". Do a starting strength routine. Bring up your squat, bring up your deadlifts, bring up your bench, and I recommend rows.

I would start with the 3x5 Mark Rippletoe's program and start with a fairly easy weigth. It's as simple as that. If it doesn't work it's most likely behavioral not the routine. That's gonna work for most anyone providing they eat and eat. Simple basic progression. You take a small guy and add 5o pounds to his squat, 100 pounds...you have a bigger guy. Same with deadlift, bench. When your much more massive you can worry about those individual "parts" you may want to bring up and worry about you symmetry.

You want a tan you don't go for 30 minutes one time and then 5 minutes the next. You won't get any darker.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 10-09-2006, 03:43 AM
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All the serious guys I know train like I do (115kg +)

We have goals, it's not airy fairy crap. At the moment my goal is to build a chest comparable to Arnolds, it is my weak point but I am going to grow it, the other points I am concentrating on are outer bicep heads and inner triceps, and calves

Your body knows what is best, but you have to develope the ability to listen to it properly, it comes from training.

But for a beginner I have to say that if you go to the gym and you don't want to train hard that day (and your mind is not distracted by something else) then don't train hard that day.

In the beginning we followed these programs and pushed ourselves for every workout - guess what? We over trained something serious.

I have put on 73Kg using my theories so they are not rubbish, and I am not blessed I am focused - that is why I am a 'success' in what I do.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:09 AM
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I'm editing this because the tone wasn't really what I intended. Sometimes it's too early in the day!

In order to respond to what you said I'd have to write two ore three pages and it still wouldn't matter. Better we should agree to disagree. Now, I certainly wasn't saying you didn't work hard. Building muscle will take some hard work no matter what your methods. But when a guy gets good success based on his beliefs there is not much I can say to convince him otherwise. I just don't extrapolate those results to the general population. So you do what you do and I'll do what I do.

I will say if you keep pushing yourself past a significant plateau without any regards to proper programming then that's a mistake it's not the fault of the routine. Even then it would take years of punishment and abuse to develop "overtraining syndrome" and if someone does that then they just plain needed guidance. Don't blame the system for user error.

Your body only knows stimulus and adaptation. Anything else, imho, no matter what some people might experience IS "airy fairy". But all the info anybody needs is already on this forum so I don't need to play missionary. You've done a good job for yourself and I'm happy for you, btw.

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