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Here's another one:


So he has a slight roll under. He's right on the money about not going deeper because that would just increase it (see more info at right again). Ignore the comments at the bottom.

However this guy would have a hard time maintaining that load at that depth and achieving the lumbar position he wants at the bottom. It that case mobility versus stability is certainly an issue.

But he has his mind in the right place and his butt wink is not SO bad.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

And this is Boris's Squat RX vid on it:


LOL, I think Boris has a hard time giving an example of a bad squat. I.E. his illustration of the lumbar rounding is NOTHING compared to what I've seen. But hopefully your starting to get the idea. But it is NOT just "flexilbility" as he says.

I have been following Boris's blog and he is upto some fun stuff with kettlebells these days....

Thanks for all the videos- I've watched Boris' a number of times - I don't THINK my butt is winking. I've got a mirror in front of me, but not to the side- I'll see if I can twirl it around outside of the cage with some lighter weight and see if I can catch myself. If anythin, I feel like my back is arching too much- with my butt going up, as opposed to going down- is this possible?
As far as depth goes, it would be more accurate that the tops of my quads are at parallel, so yes I've got ham to calf, but not for the complete length.

Improbable. For your butt to go up your shoulders would have to come down. Some people do end up with more arch than others. We'd have to see a vid.

The way parallel/below parallel is measured is using the top of the hip and the top of the knee. If the top of the hip is below the knee then you are below paralell. If they are in line (or paralell) then you are parallel.

At least I'm pretty sure thats how its done.

IW

This is just semantics, but I thought it was when the hip and knee joints are in line and that line is parallel to the floor.

IW, They need to be parallel to the floor, not just lined up.

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Well thats what I meant. I guess I just didn't say it very well.

Technically they could be "lined up" at any angle depending on what angle "lined up" is. lol So my definition was a little vague.
IW

OK- finally got back to the gym and made a video. Wow, if a picture tells a thousand words, then...

So I've got some butt wink going on.

What kind of stretching/exercises can be done here to address it?

My take on how to cure that is one of my many projects in the works..but I've got so damn many I can't decide which one to do first. I'll try to put that one the front burner.

I'm low on sleep but some quick thoughts:

You gotta stop going as deep right now. Even if your back starts rounding under at parallel...

Contrary to popular opinion putting "going deep, and ROM" BEFORE stability (the ability to maintain the back, etc) just will not work very efficiently. Mobility and stability go hand in hand. But I have found that a certain amount of mobility FIRST while you're working on the stability at the ROM you can handle now and then slowly increasing that ROM and the stability it takes is the way to go.

I'm probably not being very clear....I'll try harder later, I promise.