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GregM 02-26-2008 11:38 AM

Not noticing any size Gains or Differences!!!
I have been working out for about 2 years now seriously(gym 3-5 times a week). I got with a buddy of mine were both about the same size. I take isoflex whey protein, purple K creatine, and some multi vitamins. I have seen strength gains for sure but nothing really for size!. Im always looking on the net for everything, workouts, nutrition etc. and i just cant seem to get bigger. i try to keep high protein low carbs and around 6 meals a day. BUT i just dont get why im not getting bigger. And i dont think i do enough cardio, maybe a few times a week. I want a skinny waist but big lats and shoulders, a clssic bodybuilding image. Do i need to just cut more fat off my midsection by cardio and abs and stuff?

widdoes2504 02-26-2008 11:41 AM

Read the "How to Bulk" sticky first and then post up your diet and current routine and we can better advise you. Thanks.

GregM 02-26-2008 11:46 AM

I think im going two different ways at once, like i wanna get bigger muscle wise but cut fat at the same time you know?... my diet i try to keep as clean as possible.
breakfest - 4-7 eggs whites/ oatmeal
meal 2 - protein shake / fruit
lunch - salad/ or tuna
meal 4 - fruit
dinner - chicken or red meat with veggies stuff like that
meal 6 - protein shake

Ross86 02-26-2008 11:57 AM

Definitely need to be getting most of that protein from whole foods. Lunch should contain some kind of protein...along with all of your other meals. To grow you're going to need to have a caloric surplus. It's very difficult to cut fat and put on muscle at the same time. You'll be much more effective if you just go on a bulking cycle and then cut.

What is your workout routine like? Exercises, sets, reps, frequency, etc..

GregM 02-26-2008 12:02 PM


Ross86 02-26-2008 12:05 PM

Yeah, sorry. I just posted and then noticed that you posted before I finished. So I re-wrote a response.

TALO 02-26-2008 12:13 PM

You need to eat more, brotha.

GregM 02-26-2008 12:20 PM

Thanks for all your help so far. well my routine changes alot because i try to variate as much as possible,
Monday - chest back
tues - abs legs cardio
wed - bis tris
thurs - shoulders abs cadio
when "they" say variate workouts does that mean changing muscle groups with days from week to week eg. ( ^ thats one week , next week could be switch around like thurs to mond etc.) because what i do is keep that routine^ but switch up the excercise eg. for tris one week would be cable pull downs , skull crushers, close grip bench - the next week - dips, one arm extensions, etc.

hrdgain81 02-26-2008 12:42 PM

Eat more carbs, look in the how to bulk sticky for both pre and post workout shakes ... it will help alot.

dave_cshmn 02-26-2008 01:41 PM

i think it was in muscle developement im doing a full body routine 2 to 3 sets 15 to 20 reps per set it calls for a 6 week of training abs 3 to 4 times a week then when thats over ill go back to a isolation stage for 1 weeks 2 sets per body part 5 days a week then after that i go light weight 3 sets per body part high reps with abs 3 to 4 times a week ive had very good luck some of this routine i made up myself but noticed bigger gains in strength and muscles some days i just do 1 set to failure on body parts that i think need some push its alot to do but it worth it

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