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i absolutely HATE off days

no matter what i do, i cannot stop thinking about just going to the gym


and no matter how i try to occupy myself, i feel useless, or like i'm missing out

regardless of how many shakes i drink or whatever work i accomplish, etc

does anyone else feel this way, and if so how about some solutions

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When I was in college, off days ment have as much sex as you could ... but that was on days too soooooo

I understand how you feel, i get antsy too. But your body does need that rest, so try to think of it, not as an off day, but as a growth day.

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I don't do this for my family, my friends, women, accolades, pride, or ego. I do it for me and no one else, its just part of who I am.

Well how often do you workout? And another question is how much have you gained since you used to post before? It seems like maybe working out has become the "thing" rather than the way to get to the "thing". Not to sound like a jerk but when you go through all the trouble of making a video of your workout complete with dramatic heavy music it makes it seem like it is all about lifting the weights and being there rather than reaching a goal.

That's ok if it works for you. But if it starts affecting other areas of your life then you could have a problem. Now I am not one to preach about this but if you are a person who works out 5 days a week or something and you've done that for a while then your obsessive thoughts about working out could actually be a symptom of overtraining.

It sounds funny I know but if you do manage to reach a state of overtraining, as hard as that is to do, it can actually cause a sort of depression, disrupting your brain chemcals. Then when your workout it releases endorphins, and voila!, you feel better. So the workout becomes like a drug, both the disease and the cure.

Now I am not trying to armchair diagnose you! It's just something to be aware of. I have noticed that people who workout too often for long periods of time are more obsessed with working out too often. You do the math.

My specific advice is to try not to think about working out but to think about your goals. So that anything that becomes detrimental to reaching those goals, both short term and long term, becomes the enemy, including not allowing your body proper rest. After all, you don't walk accross the desert because you like the heat, but to reach the oasis.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.

"off days ment have as much sex as you could"-best damn idea ive heard all week!!

Why do I bother with this stuff?

Its funny johan, looking back, if i had an "off day" in college, I wouldnt even get out of bed to go to class. I would just make some phone calls about noon and find someone to join me.

But if it was a workout day, I was supremely dedicated, was at class on time, ready to learn, then hit the gym hard right after.

Seems odd now, but it worked back then.

Eric, relax man. We all apreciate your insight, and your right at some point the obsession can become a problem. But to be honest, the kid could be alot worse off. I'd rather him be hooked on wieghts, then crack rock (why does it always come back to crack rock?)

It's not the point. Not about my insight or whether it's correct. If he didn't feel it was at least somewhat a problem then he wouldn't have posted on it. I choose not to brush off a statement like "I feel useless". When someone says that it sends up a red flag to me. But my point is simply that I feel I'm probably wasting my time if the majority consensus is that it's not serious.

Not that I don't apprectiate the attempt to lighten it up. But if he's a normal guy he's thinking about sex every minute he's not thinking about working out anyway.

^^^^point

Thanks, Anuj. And Hrdgain, don't get me wrong. You offered helpful, incisive advice and I am not trying to blast anyone. I'm just going by what he said and recognizing that he actually asked for real solutions.

To me, the bottom line is improving yourself, whatever shape that takes for you, should make you feel better about yourself. If you don't feel good about yourself then reaching for goals is the solution and that in itself should make you feel better. But if no matter what you accomplish you feel worthless unless your lifting some weights, that, imho, is a problem. Anybody can lift weights, but it damn sure takes some drive, and yes, a little obsession, to be succesful. I recognize that.

But if I here a person say I feel worthless or useless and I can't stop thinking about this or that I see a person that has a general problem and what they obsess about is likely just where they choose to channel it. But as I said, the problem could very well be physical. Never underestimate the influence the body has over the mind.