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Old 10-03-2008, 04:05 PM
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that i can do.
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:13 PM
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Nice, Im tryin that right now E.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:27 PM
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You know I feel like I should back up why I and others feel like this is article was mostly bs instead of just making fun of it..and maybe I will later when I'm not feeling so lazy. But I did want to say what I think is a potential reason people choose to write stuff like this.

I've talked before about the "short term over-reaction" and "long-term under-reaction" to trends in the strength and conditioning industry. Of course they are hardly ever new things..they are old things resurfacing and it happens over and over again in a cycle. A great example would be 5x5 training, lol.

So this article starts out with "One of the latest rages in the fitness industry is the plank exercise".

What he is implying is that there has been an over-reaction to planks that may be similar to, say, the over-reaction to bosu balls or unsable surface training.

Could there be an over-reaction to something like planks? Sure. Are they the answer to everything and all your back problems etc? Of course not. Does that mean they are worthless and you just stubbornly cling to situps and such? NO.

Just because there are over-reactions to things doesn't mean they may be one of the most usefull things you can do. YOU can choose to react reasonably and thoughtfully to things and use them as part of a coherent philosophy. You can recognize their value, if it exists for you, without "over-reacting".

But to decry over-reacting and instead prematurely go right to the under-reacting phase is falling into a trap and it does not involve critical thinking at all!
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 10-17-2008, 01:34 PM
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Oh, here, this is as fine a rebuttal to the article as your going to get:

http://www.backfitpro.com/articles/E...0stiffness.pdf
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:24 PM
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i read that there thing in a book once.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:12 PM
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Did you now? I think I may have read that as well
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:03 PM
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Lol...

Quote:
Originally Posted by eric cressey
disagree completely....i'm not a fan at all
http://www.dryessis.com/wp/?p=163#more-163
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:40 PM
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Coincidentally, TG just blogged on situps again today.

He posted before: http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/en...waste-of-time/

And brought up today:

Furthermore, in Low Back Disorders: Evidence-based Prevention and Rehabilitation, Dr. Stuart McGill notes that the traditional sit-up imposes approximately 3300 N (about 730 lb) of compression on the spine. Incidentally, the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) has set the action limit for low back compression at 3300 N; repetitive loading above this level is linked with higher injury rates in workers, yet this is imposed on the spine with each repetition of the sit-up! Hello people?!?!?!?! Stop doing freakin sit-ups, for the love of all that is holy.

I do want to point out that Mcgill states we have more to fear from shear forces than compression but the point is still well made!
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Old 11-18-2008, 03:30 PM
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haha.....where is the cressey quote from?
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:45 AM
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I happened upon it in a Cressey thread at T-Nation.

Actually I was looking for changes in recommendations on MM because I had read something or other about certain movements being no longer recemmended by him and MR. But someone asked about Yessis and his plank article and I had to look through to see what EC said. Actually MR came on and jokingly said he was wating with baited breath as well. But EC kinda let me down since I hoped he would really go off
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