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Old 03-01-2006, 06:22 AM
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ok my bad
YES..! someone apart from me made a boo-boo..!

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you can do any exercise in the world, but if you dont have the correct intensity, frequency, rep range, etc. then you won't see gains
wait... i disagree here... i don think one can say that...

ur telling me that if i do shoulder presses with a tempo of 9050 for 3 months i wont make gains..? i will... but which is better: doing that or OVT shoulders...? OVT..!

so, i think u shud have said that:

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you can do any exercise in the world, but if you dont have the correct intensity, frequency, rep range, etc. then you won't see OPTIMAL gains
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Old 03-01-2006, 06:28 AM
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THATS easy start bowling with you left arm now for about 5 years. Jesus man common sense.


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Old 03-01-2006, 06:32 AM
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THATS easy start bowling with you left arm now for about 5 years. Jesus man common sense.
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Old 03-01-2006, 10:02 AM
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Ok, Kane and Anuj, I think we're all in basic agreement here.

I don't want to convolute matters anymore .

Anuj, look in the bodybuilding glossary in the training section and look up those terms Kane reffered to. You refer to tempo while disregarding intensity, rep range, etc., which makes it meaningless. You refer to "OVT shoulders" without seeming to understand that in essence, OVT is simply high volume split work, notwithstanding the "optimized" part, and is certainly not inherently superior in any basic sense. You could get the same results with other types of training, if, as Kane says, you use the optimal intensity, rep ranges, frequency, etc.

But I think we've hyjacked the thread
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:41 AM
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Just to make it clear I will use an example. Shoulder press...If your 1RM is 200lbs, and you're doing that exercise for a 3x3 once a week with 100lbs on the bar. Terrible combination of intensity (using 100lbs), rep range and frequency . Hope that makes my point clear ;)

and yes...hijack and a half this is my last post in the thread lol
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alright eric... your the boss: u say this discussion is over, then its over..!

oh, and i know about rep, etc... i just din noe how to word it... gues me and kane have the same problem... except i think he knows a little more
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Old 03-02-2006, 07:00 AM
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No no, bro. I only meant that we were straying too far from the original intention of ebabbit's thread...

I would NEVER shut down a discussion for no reason . We can move it to your journal or something...
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