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Darkhorse 06-11-2005 12:03 PM

DC Training
 
Noone should do DC training unless they are advanced trainees. There just ain't no way, and everyone including myself who trains using DC will be the first to tell anyone not to do it. You honestly need at least 4 years exp. before trying it. I'm actually thinking about taking down the info. in my journal. :(

joeyboy777 06-11-2005 01:24 PM

well,ya got me there. It does state in the information it is for advanced lifters... I guess Im just used to seeing a lot of hungry people that know what they are doin on the boards. its best to stick to the basics and learn the moves at first,
oh, 0311, your journal is just that.. I dont keep a journal per say, but use excel at every workout for progress. A journal gives ya some extra space to keep you accountable, and you can put misc feelings in there on how weights/you felt... but dowhat ya want.

What would you recommendas a split then. A 3 x full wo,or 4 day split, maybe do the below, maybe swap monand friday. pick 3-4 exercises, 3-4 sets, and 8-12 reps a set.

Mon - Back/Bis
Tues - Shoulders
Wed – Rest
Thrus - Legs
Fri - Chest/Tris

verbatimreturned 06-11-2005 01:25 PM

i wouldnt consider taking down the info 0311 maybe just a warning about the intensity of the workouts....maybe we should put subgroups on the journal section as in like a colum for advanced routines...intermediate, and then basic routines so people who come here and take a look at the journals know what level they should be looking at based on their experience (put next to each section how much experience you need to be up to that kind of routine) its a possibility, and im sure it would help out alot

Darkhorse 06-11-2005 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by verbatimreturned
i wouldnt consider taking down the info 0311 maybe just a warning about the intensity of the workouts....maybe we should put subgroups on the journal section as in like a colum for advanced routines...intermediate, and then basic routines so people who come here and take a look at the journals know what level they should be looking at based on their experience (put next to each section how much experience you need to be up to that kind of routine) its a possibility, and im sure it would help out alot

That's a great idea, BUT...If I was a newbie, and had a choice at either a beginner routine or an advanced one, I'd pick the advanced. Looking at my journal, if I was a beginner I could easily go off of it and mimic my program because it's layed out well. Actually, over on the intensemuscle board, the founder took down all his sticky's because of just that->too many underexperienced people asking dumb questions clogging up his forum...I've been lifting for 8 years solid, and it's still a little hard to take in and definately kicks my ass. Rest/pausing, blasting/cruising, widowmakers, true negatives...
It's too much IMO for anyone who doesn't know their body's capabilities inside and out. Dieting is the biggest part of the program, something that takes a few years to master. (ie. how to ingest twice your bodyweight in protein alone.) SDF agrees, don't ya... ;)

Darkhorse 06-11-2005 01:41 PM

Na I wasn't going to take it down, I just wanted to stress the fact that it's advanced. If someone who thinks their shit hot and wants to give it a serious go....Have fun. Chances are they wouldn't last a month :eek: Either that, or if they're not eating right, zero gains and a ton of injuries-

Linebacker01 06-11-2005 05:28 PM

Well Thanks everyone for you Post...Sry it took so long for me to write back but I worked all day today.

Im going to read up on the sticky note routines and then i'll post what ive come up with,now note that im not exactly a Newbie to training...I started training when I was in 8th grade and I had pretty amazing gains.But I will say Im a begginer because of my lack of knowledge on many subjects.

I gotta take a shower I smell like BarbaQue...(Just got off Work)

Linebacker01 06-11-2005 05:57 PM

Alright I checked out the 3x3 and I actually like it but the problem is that im not really the much of a lazy kid, So im thinking the 5x5 would make me feel more pumped...

But im a little confused about the 5x5 workout I really dont understand what its saying...

Does it mean you workout 5 days and you do 1 out of 5 main body workouts each day to forfill a full body workout...

Ex. Day 1 squat's + another 2 workout that will contain 8-10 reps...

Day 2 Deadlifts + another 2 workout that will contain 8-10 reps...

Day 3 (alright you get the point)...

Am I understanding it right,cause if so I like it...

joeyboy777 06-11-2005 08:18 PM

I like those two. both are about starting lighter, paying attention to form. both include compound movements. 3x3 looks rough, i dont think i could do 3x on the big 3... youll be suprised real guick when you are pushing weights.... oh yeah, but the 3x3 starts easy/nice, it is functional. by having your body see an increase in size/weight each week, it is pushing itself. if you read more it is more complicated than you think, each phase has different sets/reps, and differesnt grips.
Oh, the 5x5, from the looks, it is a split, but you do an add 5 per week on major moves. go till ya meet a plateu, then go max effort 3xfor afew weeks... after rereading it, its a nice learning. yup, i like it.
oh, and the setupt is not hitting same day after day, its a split.
this is ripped from it:
Day 1 chest/calves
day 2 back/shoulders
day 3&4 rest
day 5 bis/tris
day 6 legs

Oh, and back to old syuff. originally, i leanred/followed muscle & fitness and mens health mags. I was a cookie cutter look at the routine, do it. An I tell ya, I didnt change for a while. I did my own thing durring college, had a bench in out basement, and my roomie would bench with me. I was still doing the same weight, spinnin my wheels. Luckily I have learned much over the past year. my brotherdidnt change his diet, I did. now Im coming up on a 6r, and he is the same. He finally wrote down what he has been eating the past few days. We will talk about it workin out ( most of te time we dont talk, just ask how many sets, we are in the zone and listeniive you a n to music) . OK, im done. Start wit 5x5 id say, just to give ya a split. Then work on diet. Diet is 80-90% of what happens. I have been cutting for a while now. Ive been gainin strengt just because Im hunry, but you gotta eat ta grow.

OK, gotta go to da bar. Oh, the Tyson fight sucked, but hes alrit, definately changed over the years.

apocalypse 06-11-2005 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WantingMuscle7
Apoc,

Would you prefer me to write as if I was writing a research paper for school or a business letter? If it pleases you I will try and write in the best grammar I know. From years of chat on AIM I have just learned to type without using capitals or apostrophes. Oh, also I will knock my weight up to 150 for you.

Dr.X please come here and settle this issue. Once u introduce him to Rosie all the problems will be solved. Wantingmuscle, I was just playing with u bro. By the way how are u going to knock ur weight up to 150?? With the help of a five pound dumbbell, j/k. :D

WantingMuscle7 06-11-2005 11:05 PM

The McDonalds diet. Supersize me but only for one week mayb not healthiest way but if it needs to be done.


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