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The only suggestion I have for you jagsfan05 is to make a conscious decison to change the way you look and feel. All the b.s. i've read in this thread tells me that you really arent serious about getting this shit together.

That kind of thinking will have you back on the couch eating a big mac in no time. dont do anything for anyone else, do it for yourself.

if you want to do this, all the info is right here. there are diets, and training protocols galor on this site.

"This shit isnt hard, its just hard work" - Dr. S

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I don't do this for my family, my friends, women, accolades, pride, or ego. I do it for me and no one else, its just part of who I am.

Only doing these once a week though? Like I feel like my biceps would shrivel up if I only do them once a week, you know?

Also, is this what you do? Are you in great shape and muscular? Does everyone else here agree that I should start doing this?

If you've done your homework, then you should know that most of those exercises work arms as a secondary muscle...And if you would've read some of the training journals you would know that the majority of people work arms once a week, and in some cases programs don't even call for direct arm work...So, I guess its your call now, Do you want to do the muscle mag method of 8 bicep workouts a week, or Do you want to listen to people that have already been there and done that? Since he is offering to help you out with the program...I'd suggest you give it a shot...at a glance it looks like a good program.

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thats a pretty decent program....and a good one for a beginner......

hey JAGSFAN05, i'm kinda annoyed right now.....didnt i tell you in my fucking long post to read that article....? and i have serious doubts whether you read it or not... if you did, then why are you asking lame questions like "oo...biceps only ONCE a week :eek:...oh no, i need more...my biceps wills disintigrate if i do them 1x".. i spent a shitload of time trying to explain these things to you and judging by your last statement it means you havent read my post very well... if so, then flip back and read it again before i say something you will regret...

and start doing your homework... people here are going out of their way to help you out... they dont owe it to you to do that...!!!

as far as the program is concerned, its ok for a beginner.....and uoir a beginner....

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This is some decent trolling activity. I'd give it a B+.

I was trying to give you a base to start off with. You say you are a beginner and by your comments it is obvious. Unless your are a experienced lifter (Or Juicing) your body cannot handle much more than what I gave you. The body rebuilds muscle after breaking it down in a workout. This takes time, rest and NUTRITION! You can do all the right stuff in the gym and get all the rest but if you do not feed the body properly you will not see any noticeable progress. If you eat right and get enough rest but over work yourself in the gym i.e. working out more than one body part in a week then you are constantly breaking down the muscle before it has a chance to rebuild itself. The exercises I gave you are based like this. Primary exercise Dead lift. Primary exercise Bench press. Primary exercise behind the neck press. Primary exercise Squat. All the other exercises are supportive in nature and are used to give you more strength in the major exercises and to give the body symmetry. The real moneymakers are the Dead lift and Squat; those will help pack on real quality mass to the rest off the body by helping you create a strong core. This program is based on power lifting to give you a stable core. After a year or more depending on your results on this program your body will be able to handle more advanced body building exercises and techniques. But what I am trying to give you is a strong base to work from and that is what this program will do if you give it an honest chance. Arnold, Franco Columbo and Pat Casey all were at one time COMPETITIVE
Power lifters. Other than Arnold I am sure the other names mean nothing to you, if that is true then do what the rest of us have done and do some honest research on your own and take the advice that is given to you. I have worked out on and off for years but was always forced to stop when I got to big because I spent 16 years in the Marine Corps. The Marines do not like it when you get to big even when you are not fat. Now that I am out I chose to start a serious program 10 months ago. My goal is to bench 500 before I turn 41. 10 months ago I started with a max bench of 275 I weighed 190 @ 21% body fat. I now bench 400 raw, I weigh 240lbs @ 14% body fat. I would call that progress; I used this program to get me back in the game as a three-month cycle. I also break it up a bit now and use bodybuilding techniques in combination with power lifting. I find that my gains stay more consistent when I keep my body guessing on what will come next. But I have YEARS of experience and my body can handle what I throw at it and I KNOW what I can and cannot throw at it. I could go on for hours on what to do and how to do it but so could everyone else in here with experience. I will leave you with this listen and learn, keep asking questions and do your own research. That will be the best way this crap will stay in your head. There are so many ways to do this depending on your goals but it takes TIME and a lot of hard WORK. And your question about what I look like that picture is me dead lifting 445 3 sets of 8 that was my light week and that aint no bullshit.
PS I have 19.25 inch arms and growing you be the judge on if my program works.

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true... and i like your program..... its pretty good...

and i love your sig... if pete was around he'd REALLY enjoy it

Ok, sorry about my last post guys. I understand. Just please know that I am trying to learn and be patient. Some of you have attitudes and it doesn't help any.

Thank you all so much for your help.

Ok now notes from Day 1 yesterday of starting StoneWarriors schedule!

My legs are killing my so bad, especially my groin from the deadlifts. I thought they were supposed to work your back? When I did them I felt it in my back, but today it is really killing my legs. I did all four exercises. I am so happy!

Also one more thing. What if I can't do four days? I will try and do that last day, but I can only do it on Sunday because of my religion. I usually only can do 3 days but I will try my best.

Thanks so much! I am feeling the pain! Lol.

firstly, no one here has an attitude problem ok...? get that clear.... those of us who are helping you are going out of our way to help you.... we dont owe you shit and there's no fucking compulsion to help you....and those of us who are helping you arent idiots... 0311, Eric3237, hrdgain81, RoryL, Kane, verbatimreturned, ChinPieceDave667, etc have proved themselves to know their shit..... so dont accuse people of having "attitude" problems over here.... i see your posts and it really looks like you dont read or do ANY homework from your side at all.... i think YOU need to have an attitude change rather than anybody from bb.net.. we clear...?

secondly, if you cant do 4x a week its ok... here's a program i came across which if the rest of the people here dont mind, might help you out..
http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...e-ny-2111.html

also, lets say you want strength along with mass, then you can attempt Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength for Beginners Program..... its supposed to be excellent for beginners like you... i have attached a word file for your convenience below...

also, Kane apparently used to be like you... if you ask me, you should contact Kane and ask him for advice because he's had awesome gains on the programs he's attempted... infact, here's a quote from his journal:
i think he'll be able to give you some good advice on weightgainind....

everyone here's trying to help you out... sometimes people get mad because of some posts of yours (example: your previous post) and you have to learn to deal with that if you want to be set on the right path....

and i'm done lecturing... hopefully, i've been of some help to you...

best of luck

Anuj

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