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Darkhorse 04-20-2005 06:37 PM

Strict Form Limits Gains
New article from Max-OT. I completely agree with it and I wanted to post it for everyone else to see...Especially Slayer ;)

apocalypse 04-20-2005 10:12 PM

I dont know if u have noticed 311, but I have some homeboys that are all about the form, sure as hell look better than me, not bigger. :( So I think its a matter of looking good or looking big.

Darkhorse 04-20-2005 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by apocalypse
I dont know if u have noticed 311, but I have some homeboys that are all about the form, sure as hell look better than me, not bigger. :( So I think its a matter of looking good or looking big.

You're saying that they look good while they lift weights with form, right?

ChinPieceDave667 04-21-2005 11:38 AM

I dont' know about this.. I see some guys in my gym that throw, and swing weight up and it's alot of weight but they look like crap.. I keep good form but not strick... I think there is a margin of error..

Boxing Raven 04-21-2005 12:43 PM

Strict Form vs Freestyle
I think you both have valid points. I think you could argue for either side, and both are probably technically right. It all has to do with how extreme you go either way. If you are too strict, you will basically be simulating a machine, and we all know that you an lift heavier with a machine, but that the movement is so restricted that you do not become as strong. On the other side of the coin, if you lift heavier, but use wacky form, way out of line, just to finish a few reps, you will most likely injure yourself i nthe long term.

I've always used relatively strict form on certain movements (ie. concentration curls, ez bar curls, squats) but have had certain movements where I found it benificial to not be as strict (such as bench press, lat pulldowns, and most shoulder movements). Doesn't mean that will apply to any of you, thats just what my body reacts best to.

Also, on days that I go crazy and try lift particularly heavy, max weightage, I do not use as strict of form.

Who knows! I suspect that the truth lies somewhere in the middle.


Dr X 04-21-2005 02:01 PM

I have always been about lifting properly (proper form) but I have never been about doing strict. I believe if your to strick you can injure yourself. However there is a hughe difference between proper lifting and sloppy lifting and I think this is where you guys differ in your argument. I also believe that after you have hit the wall it is ok to cheat to get in that extra rep or two. Again not to the extreme where injury can occcur, just to where you can max out the set. I guess in conparison to most clowns in the gym i have superior form but again if i have to bend, arch, grunt, scream, whatever it takes to get up that last rep I will, just not to the point where I think I will injure myself.

Darkhorse 04-21-2005 02:42 PM

Maybe you guys are taking it too far. I'm not saying, nor is the article saying that it's ok to arch your back all the way to bench press more weight of bend backwards to do a few more curls. The article is saying that you do what your body naturally wants to do (ie a natural slight swing doing barbell curls or leaning a little back for pulldowns) The article is saying to use a little english to put up more weight and take away injury. Of course you need a happy medium of the two or else you'll either injure yourself, look like an idiot, or plateau...

Boxing Raven 04-21-2005 03:02 PM

Personally, I like to start off all of my work-out's with really bad form. Every rep is done with a huge, over dramatic swinging motion (occaissionally, I even take a running start to a dumbell curl). It may not be great form, but I do lat pull downs, I often swing a leg over the bar, if I can't get it down with me arms. That or I use my entire bodyweight, but hanging from the bar.

I like to warm down by doing a set of 5 girl push-ups, and 5 knee bent leg lifts. Then I have someone else run on the treadmill for my cardio work out.



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