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Old 06-17-2008, 04:10 PM
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And thus the myth propagates forward to more readers...


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i understand how off late it may seem that i have become high handed or rude or relaly cynical.

but ive been observing some of the posts off late on here and a LOT of the people who rarely post have been contributing the largest amount of BS i've ever heard.

gymrat is one such guy but there are many others.

what i dont understand is this...some of these guys have the nerve to post a thread asking a basic question like "whats wrong with my workout routine?" and then they go into other threads like "how do i build a bigger bicep peak" and post advice in them. how does this exactly work? if you don't know what your supposed to do in the gym, what authority do you have in giving advice to some gullible newbie like yourself who will readily lap it all up because he knows no better?

well, this is why i have become an asshole towards some posters. i know i dont know enough. but when someone asks me a question, ill answer to the best of my ability and if i can't answer any more, ill admit it. and i do acknowledge that guys like eric, 0311, dave, etc know a shitlot more about training than me...which is why i usually stay away from threads in which they comment because there really isn't much i can say which has not been said before...

anyways...rant over.

for the record: gymrat: you need to post less and read more.
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:14 AM
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try and e-z bar incline...it works and you really feel it up there
"It works" would indicate that you could specifically build the "upper chest". In other words..................................you're wrong and he called you out. Your chest might have filled out, but it didn't happen for the reasons you thought it did. (We already had this conversation before) And if Perks had followed your advice then he would end up becoming frustrated. Don't get pissed off because you don't know what you're talking about. Get educated. Every time I get called out because I say something that's wrong, I go read up on it and learn so I can become better. And if you're not sure about a question someone has posted, then ask in that thread. Ask if your advice is good advice. The forum is here for learning, not self gratification.

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EDIT: Like I said in my last response to one of your rants, most people get where they are despite their training. I put on 20lbs of lean mass in the past 6 months also despite a boatload of injuries. I would guess that you have much better genetics than I do also. But that's beside the point for now.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:25 PM
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you know what...a guy asked a question and i said what works for me....all i said was you really feel it up there...you go do and tell me how that is bs....im not a dumbass i know what im talking about...hence why ive gained 20 pounds of lean muscle in the last 6 months....i workout with pro bodybuilders and im just saying what works for us....so if you have a problem with me saying what has worked for me...then dont read what i post...
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:35 AM
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you know what...a guy asked a question and i said what works for me....all i said was you really feel it up there...you go do and tell me how that is bs....im not a dumbass i know what im talking about...hence why ive gained 20 pounds of lean muscle in the last 6 months....i workout with pro bodybuilders and im just saying what works for us....so if you have a problem with me saying what has worked for me...then dont read what i post...
which pro bodybuilders do you workout with? yeah...im calling you a liar.

your advice is absolutely ridiculous.

most "pro" bodybuilders have such awesome genetics that if they just sat and fapped all day they'd still huge. so using them as a model is misleading and will lead to zero results.

the rules are simple for anyone wanting to get big:
1.) avoid injuries and play safe no matter what
2.) focus on progression
3.) higher frequency
4.) mostly compound lifts
5.) eat good food

its not that hard.

your advice regarding the ez bar is absolutely silly...sort of like saying that doing ez bar curls is better than barbell curls.

i looked over your posts and you seem to be making shitty contributions on this board. if you aren't going to man up and defend what you're saying (apart from whining "i workout with pro bodybuilders and they told me so...") then please STFU and stay out of such threads.

like ross mentioned: you are more than welcome to start your own thread asking if you know what you're talking about.

have a good day
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Wow, fun thread.
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joseph raley...look him up
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and im not saying that the chest is not one muscle because it is...but you can do differnt movements to stimulate the fibers more in one area than another
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and im not saying that the chest is not one muscle because it is...but you can do differnt movements to stimulate the fibers more in one area than another
How so? A muscle is similar to a rubber band. it can only be pulled from its attachment points. Can you pull a rubber band such as to stress part of it more than another?
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How so? A muscle is similar to a rubber band. it can only be pulled from its attachment points. Can you pull a rubber band such as to stress part of it more than another?
and this was a good point in which BG5150 made
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http://www.bodybuilders.com/raley.htm

he isnt even such a big pro. he's over 40 to begin with and his workout program sucks. not to mention his supplement stack is awesome as hell.

you're referencing someone who cannot be compared or taken as an example of.

read some of your other posts. you have a major attitude.
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