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I'm not taking sides here, but you need to ease up a bit anuj.

I'm not sure what your trying to say here, but that dude, regardless of what his routine is listed as on bb.com, or what suppliments he uses, looks awesome, especially for 40+.

Now should you do incline with an ez-curl bar to build your upper chest ... I wouldnt, doesnt make sense to me, and nothing I've read or done supports the theory.

but even after being called out, and called a liar, Gymrat seems to have kept his cool, and not taken this to a personal level. I think learning needs to take place on all sides on this one.

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I don't do this for my family, my friends, women, accolades, pride, or ego. I do it for me and no one else, its just part of who I am.

this is not about whether the 40 year old dude has credibility or not. this is about posting something wrong and misleading and having the gullible OP lap it up because he knows no better and then end up making him run around in circles.

i don't care if rat boy took it on a personal level or not...we were not discussing the effectiveness of the incline ez bar press. we are discussing the importance of exercise selection in general for the OP who weighs 155 lbs.

the OP needs to eat more, focus more on his big 3 and see what happens. he is at the stage where strength = size more or less so he must take advantage of that.

you missed the point of my rant. it was regarding new people to the sport being mislead by knowledge yet mis-informed other people.

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You are completely missing the point anuj.

You brought raley's credibility into question, and I corrected you.

You went on a rant about newbs, and mis-information, and thats fine. But there are much more constructive ways to get your point across, just look at what drallen posted, I'm sure eric and sleazy didnt rant and flame him, but he now understands that the chest is one muscle that grows as such.

You need to relax, and understand we are all still learning, you of all people should know this.

Not me! I know everything! ;)

alrighty. i understand. my bad. je suis desole. i'm sorry, boys...

i understand where you're coming from. i apologize for making this into a personality thingy. its time i be more productive.

Well said Matt.

I made the same mistake a couple of weeks ago. Someone asked on a thread how to work the center of their chest, I suggested butterflys. Needless to say Eric and Sleazy set me straight.

If you go into the gym and watch other people you can see that they have been subjected to the myth. They continously hit the straight, decline, and incline bench. If you read heath magazines, full of BS by the way, you find the same thing. People hear this so much they think its just a bodybuilding must.

I'm going to agree with that. At least a the gym I go to, people that work out with proper form and good solid programs are few and far between. I can see how its easy to get misled.

IronWorker

wolf...how many 40 year olds do you know that workout that are that big or even look that good that are ALL NATURAL (meaning no steroids)...the dudes office is full of his contest trophies (a majority of them are 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place trophies) so how can he not be and example of a bodybuilder...o well you can say what you please but this will be the last time i will even dignify your post with a response..

Rat boy,

when you tell a guy who weights 155 lbs @ 5'6 to do ez bar incline press to help his chest to grow, it simply means that you have the knowledge but you lack an understanding of who needs to be doing that and who doesnt. @ 155 lbs he doesnt need to be doing any specialized chest work.

you're whole argument is thus flawed.